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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disc has been found and is now

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is rigged army the game

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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outside this worker

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i network your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fate to black with

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jimmy josh on the game changer network

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good evening fade to black

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bespoke radio

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uh yeah man how you doing today is

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94 days into the new year only

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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a total undisclosed location but it is

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another week about to kick off and i

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would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer and unnext networks racehobs

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i'm yours jimmy church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing

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how you doing okay this is a test this

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is a test

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of the emergency broadcast system

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race hobbs

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text me on my phone right now i want to

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know if you are listening to the show i

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want to know if you're working i want to

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see a text come in

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on my phone and say yes jimmy

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i'm working that's all i want to see

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tonight another amazing week here on

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fade to black tonight live from sweden

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peter takren

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of the band hypocrisy also of pain

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i wonder which band he likes better

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sweden tonight peter tacron is with us

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flat earth dave

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flat earth dave is here

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the tires light the fires tomorrow night

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is flat earth still a thing

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a huge night on fade to black every

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mr don ecker is going to be with us and

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uh it's just amazing i got don ecker

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matters radio and for those of you out

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thursday is another fader night

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with open lines all night long

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side projects uh these big things i'm

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boom and i i got nothing so i wake up

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cup of coffee and i got no response from

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was yeah man i did sorry about that man

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interesting thought i'd share that with

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all right everybody wants their own

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crystal skull you know you want yours

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did the unboxing video i did it i got

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the unboxing video done

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prophet look at that baby einstein

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there's some vibes there look he just

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glows man

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there's a lot going on inside

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of this skull that's profit you want

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yours go to einstein the

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crystalskull.com

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he's amazing look at that

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einstein the crystal skull.com promo

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code jimmy

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get you

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10

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off of your next crystal skull order

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today the links are over at

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jimmychurchradio.com

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coming up this june 18th through the

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disclosure fest foundation presents the

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mass meditation initiative 2022

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it is 10 a.m to 10 p.m pacific time one

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day only

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historic park in downtown los angeles

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over 30 acres it's absolutely amazing 16

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stages four stages with musical guests

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including trevor hall the desert

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dwellers and poron ghee

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another they're 16 stages total we've

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got workshops with billy carson adam

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apollo lori spania laura eisenhower brad

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olsen david palmer and many many more

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disclosurefest.org

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one day event it is ginormous

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it is so much fun and everybody's going

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to be there downtown los angeles

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absolutely incredible so we'll see you

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down there disclosurefest.org

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you can follow me on twitter at j church

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hashtag f2b on twitter is the sandbox

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it is live right in front of me

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what is this nexus vr for chisel i have

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to do my group workout that i host in vr

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i want to see that work out

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i want to see it oh is it like a is it

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if coach is in columbia he's going to

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he forgot to pick me up

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the sandbox right there in twitter oh by

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is they're regular just at the top of

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the menu they got all kinds of

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of wacky you know custom burgers but i

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burger and uh and fries and

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i did do that and is yeah it was it was

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is it in and out great no it's not even

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in and out is so far above everything

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huge breaking news was announced first

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i'm still having uh

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trouble digesting this

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because tesla ceo elon musk

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has purchased a 9.2 stake in twitter

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earlier today twitter's shares jumped

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elon now controls nearly 73.5

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million shares of the company making him

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the billionaire criticized twitter which

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i saw and read for a lack of commitment

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twitter followers encouraged him to buy

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twitter's platform entirely just buy the

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whole thing or go and create your own

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monday morning

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he takes control of the company what

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i don't know he just took control

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last week

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jack dorsey i didn't reply to it

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jack dorsey said you know uh we're

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internet and we're supposed to have this

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freedom of thought and freedom of

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and i thought what do we and and he said

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man the internet is not that anymore

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and i am partly to blame

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he said something like that you know

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what i was really like whoa

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what kind of self-reflection thing is

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jack going through

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and does he have regrets and apparently

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he does

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so

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there you go and then today elon takes

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control of the company still trying to

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figure this out we will know more in the

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days and weeks ahead

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uh elon is still in the news today huge

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news

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the international space station is set

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to become busier than usual this week

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when four new colleagues from

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houston-based axiom space

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the first all-private astronaut team

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ever will be flying to the iss

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axiom's four-man team will lift off this

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friday from nasa's kennedy space center

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in florida on a falcon 9 rocket that was

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furnished

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and flown by

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spacex

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the ax1 team will be carrying equipment

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and supplies for 26 science and

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technology experiments to be conducted

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before they are slated to leave orbit

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and return to earth

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just 10 days after launch

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axiom has contracted with spacex

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to fly three more missions to orbit over

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the next two years

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absolutely incredible and you know

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what's going on man you know what's

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going on with the sanctions and russia

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and the invasion of ukraine and

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roscosmos and rocket engines and and who

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and what is going to be flying to the

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iss and who's going to be controlling it

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and you know what they were saying last

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week roscosmos the director

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he wants to sabotage the iss mission

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it's just like crazy

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so

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our own rockets

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are now taking crews to the iss

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this is a big deal

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let's get this show cracking happy

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robert downey jr

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is

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56 years old oh i didn't do the big news

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the other big news foo fighters cleaned

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up

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all of their nominations they won

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grammys yesterday i just wanted to uh

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best rock album all that stuff

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uh uh

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congrats to the foo fighters all right

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robert downey jr today is 56 years old

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magician david blaine and he's good too

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today is 48 and comedian david cross i

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think he's one of the funniest cats out

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there

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today is 57.

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our dead guy's birthday today is a

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moment of silence please

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1952-2011 and died at the 58 the age of

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58.

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gary was a guitar player from ireland

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whose career started with thin lizzie in

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1974.

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through the years his playing style

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changed and went from rock it went into

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metal and jazz and fusion

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and then the blues

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always regarded as a virtuoso

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he was the guitar player's guitar player

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no question about it

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and he is usually mentioned as an

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influence

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by any guitar player in an interview so

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you know whether

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that gary moore

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right right

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gary moore

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and uh wow

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he did it all he really did and he did

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it his way

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during the early hours of february 6

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2011

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gary died of a heart attack in his sleep

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at a hotel in spain

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at the age of 58. in the world of guitar

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there's a few

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i mean like really famous guitars jimmy

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page's les paul right you got that you

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got eddie van halen's frankenstein you

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got that

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you know uh jimi hendrix's

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strat that he burned at monterey

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whatever right there's just a few

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things up there and

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gary moore

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had the other holy grail

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he had peter green's 1959

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les paul one of the most famous guitars

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in rock and everybody knows about that

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guitar

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gary moore

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bought that guitar

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from peter green

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and he had

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that the

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the guitar

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he had it

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happy birthday gary moore on this day in

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history 1969

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martin luther king is assassinated while

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standing on the balcony of the lorraine

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hotel in memphis tennessee

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fader fact

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okay

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here you go

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look it up i know what you're going to

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say in just a minute you're going to go

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look it up

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hennig

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brand

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was a german alchemist

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who

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in his quest of making gold

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evaporated boiled and distilled

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human urine

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which eventually

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started to glow in the dark

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and burst into flames

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he failed to make gold

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but he discovered the element

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i'm gonna leave that right there

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that's a fader fact

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burst into flames it's true it's a fact

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all right tonight we have very special

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guests live from sweden peter takren is

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here

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00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:53,679
front man for hypocrisy and pain well

440
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:55,520
not really for pain

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00:23:02,950 --> 00:22:59,039
not for pain he's a band member in pain

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he joins us live from sweden tomorrow

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night flat earth dave is here to discuss

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if the flat earth is still a thing

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that's right we're doing that tomorrow

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night wednesday night

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don ecker that's right don ecker is on

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this show as my guest and thursday

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night's another fader night with open

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lines all night long river moon coffee

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rivermoonwellness.com fade to black

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blend game changer blend this is fade to

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in my new grinder that doesn't have

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static

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rivermoonwellness.com links are over at

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jimmychurchradio.com truly the best

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coffee

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in the world all right here we go you

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ready

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so

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00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:04,549
you're out walking your dog

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00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:07,520
it's early in the evening

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it's starting to get dark

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00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:14,159
in the sky you see a bright light

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is it moving

466
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:18,640
you think so

467
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:19,520
and you

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00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:21,919
do you try to think what it might be

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00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:25,200
starting with the most likely right

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00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:27,440
aircraft landing light

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00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:30,080
is it venus

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00:24:34,950 --> 00:24:32,640
is it a mylar party balloon reflecting

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00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:34,960
the setting sun

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is it an iridium satellite flare-up

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00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:41,760
is it something in your eye right

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00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:42,640
you know

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00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:43,760
right

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00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:46,240
rubbing your eyes a little bit you blink

479
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you remember that you live near a

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military base so maybe it's a top secret

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00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:56,000
aircraft

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00:25:01,750 --> 00:24:58,960
or maybe some new drone technology that

483
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:01,760
everybody is talking about these days

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00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:07,510
of course

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00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:10,320
it must be an alien scout craft dropped

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off from a giant mothership visiting our

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planet from zeta reticuli

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piloted by three telepathic alien greys

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under an agreement with president

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eisenhower the 1954 galactic trade

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treaty with the clandestine mj-12

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majestic u.s government group

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00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:30,640
and now it's only a matter of seconds

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before

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you're abducted

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after which you're going to be paralyzed

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you're going to be suffocated

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you're going to be floating up in a blue

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beam of light you're gonna be examined

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and probed and fluids extracted

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all with missing time

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because you show up at home six hours

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later with a pain in your crotch

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you're not going to remember anything of

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00:26:02,390 --> 00:25:59,520
course

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00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:02,400
until you get hypnosis and regression

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therapy from somebody you found online

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and later

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00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:09,919
you're going to find a small bump below

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the skin

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behind your right ear

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and you're told that it was

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left by one of them

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it must be an alien implant to track

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your location your dreams and

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communicate with you for the rest of

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you just gotta love our ufo community

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right

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00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:35,039
and i know many of you are laughing

520
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:37,360
right now and that's fine some of you

521
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:39,520
are saying to yourself

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dude yeah

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00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:43,440
that's exactly how it happened that's

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and here's the deal

525
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:52,720
most of my friends are pretty normal

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and they are they have jobs

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right

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they are the people you visit when you

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00:27:01,430 --> 00:27:00,240
see the doctor right they work on your

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00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:01,440
car

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00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:03,760
or they sell it to you

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00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:06,000
help you find a new house whatever you

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00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:08,720
get the idea professionals from every

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00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:10,799
walk of life

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00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:12,000
and yeah

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00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:13,840
that's who they are

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00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:16,240
by day

538
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:19,440
at night on the weekends we hang out we

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00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:22,480
do and each one of them has told me

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00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:25,679
parts of the story you just heard

541
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:28,399
yeah some of the facts may have changed

542
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:30,880
but it's all pretty much the same

543
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:33,120
one afternoon back in the 90s

544
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:35,600
i was at my dentist's office for a

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routine visit not that routine

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00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:40,640
and i'm in the waiting room reading my

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new copy of the day after roswell

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00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:46,880
when the receptionist who was the mother

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of my dentist

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00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:51,200
says what are you reading

551
00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:53,520
and i tell her that it's a new book

552
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:56,320
about the ufo crash at roswell and the

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00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:59,760
alien technology from the flying saucer

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00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:01,440
and she says straight away she looks

555
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:04,159
right at me she says

556
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:14,389
now it's one thing to have a researcher

557
00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:16,960
or an author talk about these things or

558
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:19,440
watch a documentary about them but it's

559
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:21,520
something else altogether when you sit

560
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:23,200
and have a conversation with someone

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face to face

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00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:27,840
like the mother of my dentist while i'm

563
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:30,559
waiting for a root canal

564
00:28:35,269 --> 00:28:32,880
you just never know who has this stuff

565
00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,279
on their minds you really don't

566
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:37,840
it could be just about anyone

567
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:40,720
and you never know who listens to this

568
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:42,320
show

569
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:47,279
for example roland emmerich

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00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:50,159
this weekend i watched two movies

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00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:52,799
and both were origin stories about us

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00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:55,279
and our planet on friday i checked out

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00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:57,360
moonfall by emmerich

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00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:59,520
and let me tell you this

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00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:01,279
roland listens

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00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,600
to fade to black

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00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:05,520
i guarantee it

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00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,919
and then on saturday i watched the

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eternals

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yes i know it's another marvel flick but

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but it's not spider and iron man saving

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the planet in fact it's another origin

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story and it starts back in mesopotamia

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and ancient sumer

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and the story by kaz and ryan ferpo who

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i'm pretty sure

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definitely both are worth the watch

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they are and again

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i'm pretty sure both emmerich

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and the ferpos

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were abducted by aliens from zeta

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reticuli

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they just haven't talked about it yet

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they will

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seriously

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watch both films

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peter tachgren is here

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front man for hypocrisy

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he is a drum tech

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for the band pain joins us live from

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sweden tomorrow night fly earth dave is

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is flat earth still a thing

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radio don ecker and thursday is another

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fader night with open lines all night

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long i'm yours jimmy church on the game

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changer and annex networks racehobs

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your father's radio show

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on the game changer radio network

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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[Music]

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00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:30,720
all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church a huge week

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00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,320
here on the show

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00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:36,240
starting with tonight peter tacron

712
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:38,720
frontman for hypocrisy drum tech for

713
00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:40,079
payne

714
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:43,839
joins us live from

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00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:45,920
let's watch peter fall off his own couch

716
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:49,920
tomorrow night flat earth dave is here

717
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:52,800
he's here to discuss no i'm not on the

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00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:55,440
fe bandwagon

719
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:57,440
i would have done this if april fools

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was thursday i would have done that on

721
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:01,359
thursday but nah wednesday night don

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00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:03,359
ecker is with us thursday night is

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00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,119
another fader night with open lines all

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00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:07,200
night long tonight it's peter live from

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00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:08,960
sweden we're going to be talking ufos

726
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:11,680
tonight disclosure his new album release

727
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:14,400
for hypocrisy and the upcoming world

728
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:17,680
tour peters peter peters

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00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:20,010
petersh is a sweeter musician

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00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:23,200
[Laughter]

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00:36:26,430 --> 00:36:24,160
peter

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00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:26,440
is a swedish musician

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00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:28,720
multi-instrumentalist record producer he

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00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:30,320
is the founder main songwriter lead

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00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:32,560
vocalist and guitarist of hypocrisy as

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00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:35,599
well as the band pain in which he is the

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00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:38,960
only member because he's the drum tech

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00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:41,599
he was also the owner he is also the

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00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:43,760
owner of abyss recording it's an amazing

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00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:45,280
studio by the way

741
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:47,920
and co-founder of lindemann the music

742
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:50,560
project between tacron and ramstein

743
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:53,520
vocalist ramstein and lindemann tacker

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00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:56,400
and left and lindemann back in 2020

745
00:37:02,230 --> 00:36:58,560
his music over the years has centered on

746
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:02,240
ufos et contact and disclosure and

747
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:05,520
hypocrisy's new album is called warship

748
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:08,720
and the cover has an illustration of an

749
00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:11,680
e.t alien that's right with uh the

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00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:13,359
correct number of fingers

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00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,760
in front of a mayan pyramid we're going

752
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:17,280
to be talking about that in the design

753
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:19,440
of that cover surrounded by crafts in

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00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:20,720
the sky

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00:37:24,069 --> 00:37:22,800
or are they from another world

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00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:24,079
all of that and much more tonight with

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00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:25,359
peter tacker and i would like to welcome

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00:37:28,710 --> 00:37:27,359
peter live from sweden peter how you

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00:37:31,370 --> 00:37:28,720
doing man

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00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:31,380
hey jimmy it's [\h__\h] great to be here

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00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:34,640
[Laughter]

762
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:36,720
and uh now let's let everybody know it

763
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:39,599
is 4 30 in the morning

764
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,320
yeah in sweden and uh peter and i we

765
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:44,560
actually did the interview uh this

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00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:46,480
afternoon in that we talked for like two

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00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:48,880
hours on the phone having a great time

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00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:51,920
and uh and and he's like man i gotta set

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00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:54,560
my alarm man i gotta go to bed

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00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:57,760
and uh 4 30 in the morning and that's it

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00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:58,560
but

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00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:00,560
um you've got a beautiful home you've

773
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:02,240
got your studio you got your wife your

774
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:05,520
kids you're healthy um

775
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:07,440
you know it's only 4 30. you only got to

776
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:09,040
do this once right

777
00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:15,670
no i couldn't sleep i don't know you

778
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,960
know sometimes

779
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:18,720
uh your brain is just going oh you're

780
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:20,240
gonna get up in

781
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:21,599
three four hours

782
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:22,800
and um

783
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:25,119
yeah i just couldn't sleep so i took

784
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:27,920
some coffee and just rolled my thumbs

785
00:38:30,829 --> 00:38:29,839
and just looked at the clock just going

786
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:30,839
very

787
00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:33,520
slow now

788
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:36,079
well you know here's the deal okay let's

789
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:38,320
let's clear out a myth

790
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,119
yeah

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00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:41,200
you're a rock and roller man

792
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:43,680
this is your time of the night

793
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:46,880
yeah all right you are a heavy metal you

794
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:50,400
are a heavy metal rock god

795
00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:53,280
this is your time no right now you can't

796
00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:55,280
you can't wish out on your fans you need

797
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:58,240
to tell them that right now is your peak

798
00:39:02,450 --> 00:39:00,960
oh god yeah right now my brain is

799
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:02,460
working okay that's for sure

800
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:04,000
[Laughter]

801
00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:06,000
other than that i don't know

802
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:07,200
now uh

803
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:09,119
you have uh

804
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,240
you've been very busy and i will uh let

805
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:14,480
everybody know peter and i

806
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:16,400
uh with another friend of mine

807
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:18,480
uh we got to hang out at the beginning

808
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:21,280
of uh your last tour here in the u.s we

809
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:23,280
all know what happened since then

810
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,440
um but we hung out and that night

811
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:29,440
we did go to like four in the morning

812
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:33,040
actually here in los angeles

813
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:35,760
yeah we stayed up all night and uh

814
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:38,400
um but you played me now we can now we

815
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:40,320
can kind of talk about this stuff

816
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:42,240
because now the album is finished and

817
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:43,040
out

818
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:44,320
but um

819
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:48,079
you uh allowed me the honor

820
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:50,480
of listening to

821
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:52,320
the tracks as you were in the

822
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:54,400
songwriting process

823
00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:57,359
some stuff had vocals on it um i got to

824
00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:01,040
see a prototype or two or three

825
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:04,319
album covers uh which also you actually

826
00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:07,040
asked my opinion about which was pretty

827
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:08,720
cool too as well

828
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:11,760
um and and i knew

829
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:14,160
that this was going to be centered

830
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:15,839
around

831
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:17,760
contact with e.t

832
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:19,680
and and the songs were there and

833
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:21,280
everything else

834
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:24,240
where did this interest come from where

835
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:26,560
this this thing because this isn't the

836
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:28,800
first album you've done and and

837
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:31,359
disclosure days of disclosure is an

838
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:33,200
incredible video and a song with the

839
00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:35,040
message but that came out a long time

840
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:38,160
ago so you have been interested in this

841
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:42,480
subject very deeply for a long time why

842
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:45,119
i don't know how it started to be honest

843
00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:52,309
i remember once uh

844
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:55,119
me mom and dad we always like took a

845
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:57,680
ride sometimes just jumping in the car

846
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:01,119
and just going in sweden somewhere and

847
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:02,800
you know we would do that once a month

848
00:41:06,309 --> 00:41:04,560
or something like that just to get out

849
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:06,319
you know we didn't have any money for

850
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:08,079
any expensive

851
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:09,040
um

852
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:11,359
vacations and stuff so you know at least

853
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:13,359
my dad had his own business he was

854
00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:15,440
always working like i am

855
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:18,079
and so you know that was the least we

856
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:20,079
could do you know to go out buy ice

857
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:22,560
cream or hot dogs or hamburgers and

858
00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:23,520
stuff

859
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:27,440
i remember once we came to a place um

860
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:29,839
this city like i don't know it's like

861
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:32,240
two hours from from my home and they

862
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:35,440
actually had a ufo museum this was like

863
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:38,000
in the mid 70s

864
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:40,079
late 70s maybe even

865
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,680
and

866
00:41:46,390 --> 00:41:43,520
that combined with the

867
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,400
close encounter of a third

868
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:48,400
third kind yeah things like that you

869
00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:50,560
know it was just constantly

870
00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:52,800
something that that was always in my

871
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:56,079
mind uh that i was fascinated by it

872
00:42:00,790 --> 00:41:58,240
and the older i got

873
00:42:01,589 --> 00:42:00,800
uh in the 80s we had this

874
00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:01,599
this

875
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:05,680
looked like a newspaper but it was

876
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:08,160
called the yellow pages but but it was a

877
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:10,160
whole paper and you could buy anything

878
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:13,200
in there so you could actually buy

879
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:15,119
vhs

880
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:18,160
tapes from people who uh

881
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:21,040
had old documentaries from america and

882
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:23,599
and all kinds of places and uh

883
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:25,440
you know you just collected anything

884
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:27,760
with that and then of course you know

885
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,240
communion with the whitley strieberg one

886
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:31,680
of four

887
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:35,200
books i ever written in my whole

888
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:37,839
life you know so i'm not really uh

889
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:40,640
a guy who who reads books you know but

890
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:43,119
but that one my brother got it first and

891
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:45,119
he said you you have to you have to read

892
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:46,880
it you know so i started with a couple

893
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:49,200
of pages you know because

894
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:51,680
my my mind and everything is always

895
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:53,359
flying everywhere else so it's hard to

896
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:55,920
concentrate to write read something

897
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:57,119
anything

898
00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:59,440
so you collected ufo videos from the

899
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:00,880
yellow pages

900
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:03,760
yeah in the 80s you know people who

901
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:04,960
somehow

902
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:07,440
uh got documentaries like

903
00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:10,800
early 80s mid 80s stuff and

904
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:13,040
that's actually where i stole the intro

905
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:16,800
for roswell 47 that i wrote in 95. right

906
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:20,000
right it's from from um this um

907
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:26,470
yeah in england yes

908
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:27,920
i can never pronounce it what is it

909
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:29,920
called randallshim

910
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:32,800
randallsham yeah so i stole that thing

911
00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:34,960
from there and put some keyboards behind

912
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:37,760
it and stuff like that that was in in 95

913
00:43:43,109 --> 00:43:41,920
it came out 96 and 94 i wrote

914
00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:43,119
this

915
00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:46,319
dimension i start going around with

916
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:48,079
dimensions what happens when you leave

917
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:50,240
your body and your soul and things like

918
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:53,040
that i just started to

919
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:56,560
yeah space out so to speak and and

920
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:58,720
when i finally started to to write about

921
00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:01,040
it it felt comfortable so i just kept on

922
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:03,680
going with different kinds of uh themes

923
00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:05,520
left and right you know and end of

924
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:08,560
disclosure came out 2013

925
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,480
and it was

926
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:12,400
i don't know people start talking about

927
00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:14,560
disclosure and stuff like that those

928
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:17,520
days right and it also influenced me a

929
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:18,640
lot

930
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:19,920
and um

931
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:22,000
now they just kept going like this yeah

932
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:24,079
it's hard to explain it's a hobby you

933
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:27,359
know well there's um uh something that

934
00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:31,040
i've noticed about you is that you you

935
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:32,720
study a lot

936
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:34,400
i know that you're being humble right

937
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:38,400
now but you understand this subject

938
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:41,040
and you've done your research and i know

939
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:44,319
what kind of questions you have asked me

940
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:48,240
and so you have a a genuine interest but

941
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:50,319
you're asking me these very direct

942
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:52,560
questions because

943
00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:54,400
you understand the subject and you're

944
00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:57,520
trying to get to the bottom of this

945
00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:00,960
is that from uh living over in europe

946
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:03,760
your approach to this because it's it's

947
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:06,079
it's ufos it's contact it's et it's

948
00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:08,960
ancient history uh it's it's it's lost

949
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:11,119
history it's it's ancient aliens it's

950
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:12,079
also

951
00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:14,960
um the pharmaceutical industry and

952
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:16,079
everything else that needs to be

953
00:45:19,349 --> 00:45:17,680
disclosed the military industrial

954
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:19,359
complex and the man running the world

955
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:21,599
and and on it right everything that

956
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:23,520
falls under that

957
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:26,160
this is something is it because

958
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:28,480
you're in sweden and you look at the

959
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:31,200
world a little bit differently

960
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,400
no i

961
00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:34,560
you see all the the weird

962
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:37,280
people ruling their countries everywhere

963
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:39,119
and they're all the same kind of things

964
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:40,240
you know

965
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:45,040
know it's a master of puppets kind of

966
00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:48,240
thing and whoever owns the bank owns the

967
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:51,760
world have you had your own sighting

968
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:53,599
actually no

969
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:56,480
i wish i did but

970
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:58,079
in the 80s we

971
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:00,480
actually went out to um not too far from

972
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:02,800
where i live i live really

973
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:05,200
secluded from everything

974
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:08,800
uh we used to go out on a ufo

975
00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:12,640
watching and so we had this mountain or

976
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,640
mountain it's like 1000 feet 1500 feet

977
00:46:20,950 --> 00:46:18,720
so you can see very clear around

978
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:20,960
everything 360.

979
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:23,680
and it's right out in the woods you know

980
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:24,960
and

981
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:26,800
i remember we were always so excited

982
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:28,400
when we're going because you never know

983
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:30,079
what you're going to see you know right

984
00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:31,200
and

985
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:34,160
just by going there it was kind of

986
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:36,400
tricky because it was more you need to

987
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:38,319
have a four-wheel drive or something

988
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:40,560
because it was really

989
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:44,079
the roads were really made from um

990
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:46,720
uh these tractors that chopped woods and

991
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:48,319
stuff like that you know so it was kind

992
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:50,000
of tricky but when you finally got up

993
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:50,720
there

994
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:53,040
you could see so much

995
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:54,960
stuff and so far away

996
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:57,200
and the funny thing was like you know we

997
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:59,200
just lay on the hood and on the roof and

998
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:01,040
just staring straight it was so dark

999
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:02,640
there you couldn't even see your hand in

1000
00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:03,680
front of you

1001
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:05,920
but you know so you could see the sky so

1002
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:07,920
clear there was no lights nowhere

1003
00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:09,280
whatsoever

1004
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:11,599
but in the beginning we started freaking

1005
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:14,000
out because we started looking down

1006
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:16,480
uh down in the valley on one side and we

1007
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:18,480
saw these flashlights

1008
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:20,640
start going everywhere and we were

1009
00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:23,920
really freaking out we're like holy [\h__\h]

1010
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:26,480
someone is coming up the hill and you

1011
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:28,319
know who who the hell is it and there

1012
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:30,960
was many of them and finally after a

1013
00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:32,319
while

1014
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:35,119
after driving we drove like

1015
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,480
i don't know a mile from there and then

1016
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:38,400
we stopped no let's go back we have to

1017
00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:40,240
see what it is so we went back again and

1018
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:42,079
then we figured out it's a road down

1019
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:44,160
there and there was cars driving so we

1020
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:46,160
were all confused because you only saw

1021
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:49,520
lights in the dark and it was pretty

1022
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:53,920
weird so you ran like travis walton's uh

1023
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:55,680
logging crew

1024
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:56,400
yeah

1025
00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:58,640
exactly you start freaking out you start

1026
00:48:03,589 --> 00:47:59,760
freaking out

1027
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:03,599
uh let me um let me ask you this um

1028
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:05,599
the content

1029
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:07,760
uh there's two ways to look at this

1030
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:08,960
first off

1031
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:11,359
the music is great right so you've got

1032
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:12,880
to have the music first you got to have

1033
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:15,040
people tapping their toes right that's

1034
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:17,440
it they've got to connect with the music

1035
00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:21,119
and the next stage is hopefully right

1036
00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:23,839
they they listen to the words

1037
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:25,280
and maybe

1038
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:27,359
they go back and read the words and they

1039
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:29,599
learn the words and then maybe get to

1040
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:32,960
the ultimate right where they understand

1041
00:48:38,230 --> 00:48:35,680
the message

1042
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:38,240
does your audience um

1043
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:41,359
uh understand the message are they are

1044
00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:43,040
they with you on this when it comes to

1045
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:46,400
disclosure in ufos and e.t

1046
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,520
uh

1047
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:49,359
i think it's

1048
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:53,040
it's pretty split there i think

1049
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:54,960
uh

1050
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:57,200
some people may not understand it they

1051
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:59,119
like the music and they can get into it

1052
00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:00,880
and you know since it's more death

1053
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:02,400
metal-ish

1054
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:04,640
uh in the 90s you could hardly hear what

1055
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:06,400
i was saying you could just only read

1056
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:08,480
the the

1057
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:11,200
the titles and go like oh that's weird

1058
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:14,160
uh but you know uh you know

1059
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:17,920
i tried to define my vocal style and

1060
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:19,920
on the new album you can hear exactly

1061
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:21,680
even though if it's growling or

1062
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,000
screaming or whatever i really

1063
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:26,480
try to make it clear so you can hear

1064
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:28,480
exactly what i'm saying without

1065
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:31,520
you know have to uh break your balls for

1066
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:34,559
it yeah right right and uh i i mean

1067
00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:35,680
there was a

1068
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:38,800
when i came out with camo chemical [\h__\h]

1069
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:41,280
uh in september people were freaking out

1070
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:43,760
that's a song that that was written

1071
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:46,640
2018 or something like that and people

1072
00:49:49,390 --> 00:49:48,400
would start freaking out and going like

1073
00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:49,400
this

1074
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:52,000
anti-vaccine dude blah blah blah and i

1075
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:53,920
was like no it's not about that you know

1076
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:56,720
it was long before colbit came out not

1077
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:59,280
long but a few years at least

1078
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:01,280
so

1079
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:03,520
and that's just about the

1080
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:06,800
pharmaceutical companies how they make

1081
00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:08,800
the money yeah you know

1082
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:10,960
in one way or another you need these

1083
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:12,880
pills you know you don't need to go to a

1084
00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:14,720
psychiatrist you need those pills that's

1085
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:16,319
going to help you

1086
00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:18,800
and we're going to make some money

1087
00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:24,870
message i had in there

1088
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:27,520
you know that that was like the

1089
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:29,920
the the core of the whole song

1090
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:32,640
and uh you know how it developed in in

1091
00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:35,200
the lyrics i start pointing fingers left

1092
00:50:38,829 --> 00:50:37,440
and right and i remember you told me oh

1093
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:38,839
you're gonna get in

1094
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:41,359
trouble well yeah but i only got it from

1095
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:43,119
comments on on

1096
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,200
on the video and stuff people

1097
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:47,520
but then they realized that was not the

1098
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:49,760
case so well i heard some people were

1099
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:52,400
really happy that i enlighted the

1100
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:54,400
problem you know some people

1101
00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:56,800
were only thinking you know

1102
00:51:02,710 --> 00:50:59,440
anti-vex anti-vex right right right well

1103
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:02,720
the first time let's let's uh

1104
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:05,680
i i wasn't speaking out of place so

1105
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,319
let's put this into context though

1106
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:10,880
because you played me the very first

1107
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:14,960
versions of that track back in 2018 2019

1108
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:16,880
and then when you came to the states you

1109
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:19,760
played me another version that was more

1110
00:51:24,549 --> 00:51:21,280
complete and you said you got to check

1111
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:24,559
this out right okay but my comments were

1112
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:25,760
back then

1113
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:28,880
we were in the middle of the opioid

1114
00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:30,400
pandemic

1115
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:36,960
um but we were in the middle of that and

1116
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:38,720
this was before covid

1117
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:42,400
and and i am constantly dealing with and

1118
00:51:46,549 --> 00:51:44,400
and i realized the power of the

1119
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:46,559
pharmaceutical industry and you're

1120
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,720
coming out with a song like that and

1121
00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:50,640
that was my point to you man the

1122
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:52,640
pharmaceutical industry can't stand

1123
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:55,200
anybody that is speaking the truth on

1124
00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:56,000
this

1125
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:58,480
and and my comment to you was are you

1126
00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:00,480
prepared you're like man i don't care

1127
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:02,000
man it's the truth

1128
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:03,760
i'm i'm just doing the truth and i'm

1129
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:05,599
doing my truth

1130
00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:13,670
well you know yeah i'm glad i'm not big

1131
00:52:17,430 --> 00:52:14,960
and famous you know then they will

1132
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:17,440
probably try to hang me for it but you

1133
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:20,160
know since i'm still on the ground and

1134
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:23,839
still very anonymous

1135
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:26,400
they don't care right right right right

1136
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:29,520
now what about your audience um

1137
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:30,480
uh

1138
00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:31,440
that

1139
00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:34,160
you are you know the famous john lennon

1140
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:36,559
quote right you know i write songs for

1141
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:39,920
me i don't write them for you right yeah

1142
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:41,760
so these are songs that you write for

1143
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:43,599
yourself if somebody connects with it

1144
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:45,680
great right there's a is another way to

1145
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:46,800
look at it

1146
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,960
exactly um

1147
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:50,160
i mean

1148
00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:52,240
it's hard to write lyrics for me i i

1149
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:54,000
really have a hard time to do that to be

1150
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:54,880
honest

1151
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:56,800
uh because i don't know what to sing

1152
00:53:01,990 --> 00:52:59,040
about because i think everything is

1153
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:02,000
boring and uh

1154
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:05,040
it has to be something that that really

1155
00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:07,440
you know opened my eyes or raised my

1156
00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:10,400
eyebrows and go like this is interesting

1157
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:13,760
and i i start to get into it and

1158
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:15,680
i mean i got

1159
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:17,280
uh diagnosed

1160
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,400
when i was 51 that i have adhd and i

1161
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:22,640
understand now where i come from you

1162
00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:23,760
know

1163
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:27,839
you get really

1164
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,079
obsessed with things that you're

1165
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:32,880
interested in and you just dive into it

1166
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:35,680
and you forget everything around you so

1167
00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:37,920
that's the kind of person i am it's the

1168
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:39,520
same thing when i write a song you know

1169
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:40,240
i

1170
00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:43,680
just

1171
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:46,160
go crazy with it until i

1172
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:48,720
am happy with it if it takes two days or

1173
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:51,520
take a month i don't care you know so i

1174
00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:54,000
kind of lose myself in in things that i

1175
00:53:58,390 --> 00:53:57,200
get into so um i think that's also

1176
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:58,400
another thing

1177
00:54:02,150 --> 00:53:59,280
for me

1178
00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:02,160
with these um

1179
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:05,599
with anything with ufos and

1180
00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:08,000
and everything that we stand for in this

1181
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:09,200
community

1182
00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:12,640
as more or less something to to get away

1183
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:14,000
from the music

1184
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:15,920
for me you know that's the only hobby i

1185
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:18,640
have except old cars and stuff like that

1186
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:21,599
i have a 57 belair and

1187
00:54:25,349 --> 00:54:23,920
dodge and and things like that but but

1188
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:25,359
other than that you know this is a

1189
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:27,599
relief for me because then i can just go

1190
00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:30,559
on my adventure into all these trails i

1191
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:31,280
mean

1192
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:33,839
i was listening to uh

1193
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:35,280
you know

1194
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:37,760
bob lazar in in in the 80s and i

1195
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:39,760
couldn't believe it you know and things

1196
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:41,040
like that

1197
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:42,640
and uh

1198
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:45,359
of course bill cooper is one of my

1199
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:46,559
heroes

1200
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:47,520
still

1201
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,160
and uh

1202
00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:52,480
so i mean all these things

1203
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:54,240
helped me to get away from the music

1204
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:57,119
because music is the only thing i know

1205
00:55:02,470 --> 00:55:00,400
so this is a a good release

1206
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:02,480
for my brain to just

1207
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,880
fly out somewhere else and and it also

1208
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:07,040
helps me uh

1209
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:10,160
think about life to be honest

1210
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:12,559
there's a purpose somehow for them right

1211
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:15,040
and and the the

1212
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:16,720
you listen to the show enough and

1213
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:19,440
certainly we talk a lot too as well but

1214
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:21,440
um the

1215
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:24,240
i'm i'm i'm very happy

1216
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:27,040
that generationally

1217
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:29,839
we've got things covered right yeah when

1218
00:55:34,150 --> 00:55:32,400
i say kids today i'm talking about 20

1219
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:34,160
years old 25 they're not kids they're

1220
00:55:36,150 --> 00:55:35,440
adults but

1221
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:36,160
but

1222
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:37,599
that

1223
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:39,520
generationally

1224
00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:42,079
they probably understand more about et

1225
00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:44,720
and contact and its importance

1226
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:47,920
uh than than any other generation before

1227
00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:50,559
and that is in large part that is that's

1228
00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:52,559
that's your audience too that that whole

1229
00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:56,240
20 to 30 year old they get it don't they

1230
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:57,920
i think so i mean

1231
00:56:02,230 --> 00:56:00,319
they're brought up on it now it's not

1232
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:02,240
like in the 70s where it was kind of

1233
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,040
taboo and stuff right

1234
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:07,440
now it's everywhere so for them it's

1235
00:56:11,109 --> 00:56:09,520
just like yeah of course if they would

1236
00:56:13,510 --> 00:56:11,119
see something come down they would go

1237
00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:13,520
okay yeah i knew that

1238
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:15,680
we would freak out the oldies you know

1239
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:18,160
we're [\h__\h] our pants

1240
00:56:21,510 --> 00:56:19,280
to be

1241
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:21,520
you know or go like i knew it i knew it

1242
00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:23,440
i knew it and they would just go yeah i

1243
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:26,079
knew that now uh you brought up uh bill

1244
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:28,079
cooper i don't want to let that go we've

1245
00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:30,880
got a few minutes before the break um

1246
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:31,760
bill

1247
00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:33,680
is a rebel

1248
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:35,520
a wizard he was a rebel he would lead

1249
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:38,960
okay yeah yeah yeah a complete rebel uh

1250
00:56:44,789 --> 00:56:42,640
i i don't have to agree with uh

1251
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:44,799
most of his stuff or any of his stuff or

1252
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:46,640
all of it it doesn't matter

1253
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:49,760
the uh the respect that i have for him

1254
00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:52,079
for just doing it his way

1255
00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:53,680
and that's the is that the way that you

1256
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:58,000
approach life too as well is it

1257
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:01,280
why you look up to bill cooper

1258
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:03,760
yeah he he definitely

1259
00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:06,559
was a rebel that's for sure and there's

1260
00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:08,480
a lot of things i agree with what what

1261
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:10,799
he was saying and a few things i didn't

1262
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:12,720
agree with but that doesn't really

1263
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:15,359
matter it's just the way how he

1264
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:17,760
laid it out to people you know you don't

1265
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:19,440
have to believe me go out and check it

1266
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:21,440
out yourself he always said he always

1267
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:23,839
said check it out right go and check he

1268
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:25,599
was not really

1269
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:29,599
trying to preach he was more or less

1270
00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:32,480
of what he thought was right and then it

1271
00:57:36,789 --> 00:57:34,160
was up to us to

1272
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,799
to do research on it and then we could

1273
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:38,400
decide

1274
00:57:43,270 --> 00:57:40,720
and that's what i liked with him he

1275
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:43,280
he was an eye-opener so to speak you

1276
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:46,319
know he was a true rebel that's for sure

1277
00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:48,480
do you consider yourself oh by the way

1278
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:50,880
everybody today peter and i

1279
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:52,079
uh

1280
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:53,200
we were

1281
00:57:58,549 --> 00:57:55,680
comparing guitar collections today

1282
00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:58,559
and just trying to see who

1283
00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:05,270
and and and here's the deal um

1284
00:58:09,510 --> 00:58:06,880
do you

1285
00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:09,520
consider yourself don't say a musician

1286
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:11,920
peter don't cop out on me are you a

1287
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:12,960
drummer

1288
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:14,960
are you a guitar player

1289
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:17,200
or are you a singer

1290
00:58:20,309 --> 00:58:18,960
i'm a drummer you're a drummer to be

1291
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:20,319
honest yeah yeah

1292
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:23,760
definitely i mean i can't play for [\h__\h]

1293
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:26,720
on guitar uh i play what i write and and

1294
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:29,200
i always been really scared of getting

1295
00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:30,720
better because

1296
00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:33,680
sometimes i i think that can complicate

1297
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:34,880
the music

1298
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:38,319
i'm more uh ac dc kind of guy you know i

1299
00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:39,680
want the rhythm

1300
00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:42,240
right there and for me that's very

1301
00:58:45,670 --> 00:58:43,280
important

1302
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:45,680
and of course melodies and it doesn't

1303
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:47,760
have to be in the mountain melodies you

1304
00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:50,960
know super fast it just the hardest

1305
00:58:54,710 --> 00:58:52,960
hardest thing to to write music is to

1306
00:58:58,309 --> 00:58:54,720
write simple music that that is the

1307
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:58,319
hardest thing that you can ask anybody

1308
00:59:01,670 --> 00:58:59,920
that is really the hardest thing to

1309
00:59:03,750 --> 00:59:01,680
write simple

1310
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:03,760
melodies and

1311
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:05,200
easy

1312
00:59:14,950 --> 00:59:10,400
understand which not become silly you

1313
00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:14,960
know that is a craft that's really hard

1314
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:16,799
i think most of the great songwriters

1315
00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:20,240
and musicians out there uh will tell you

1316
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:22,160
it's not the note that you play or write

1317
00:59:27,910 --> 00:59:24,880
it's the note that you don't play

1318
00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:27,920
right yeah right it's still it could be

1319
00:59:31,190 --> 00:59:28,960
it's good

1320
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:31,200
give it that space you know and writing

1321
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:34,480
space into a song is the hardest part

1322
00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:37,520
yeah it is uh

1323
00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:40,240
but what i like about writing music is

1324
00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:42,000
it's like a journey i really don't know

1325
00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:45,760
where it goes when i start with one riff

1326
00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:46,880
and and that

1327
00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:49,280
that's what's fascinating how it just

1328
00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:50,319
builds

1329
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:52,319
up you know you start with a riff or a

1330
00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:54,960
melody and then you put layers under it

1331
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,040
you know like a bass and the drums and

1332
01:00:02,150 --> 00:59:59,359
stuff like that and all suddenly it i

1333
01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:02,160
guess it's like a a guy who paints you

1334
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:04,720
know right right you start doodling

1335
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:06,480
around a little bit and all suddenly it

1336
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:08,640
starts growing out and it after a while

1337
01:00:12,789 --> 01:00:10,400
it becomes something you know when we

1338
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:12,799
come back after the break um i want to

1339
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:16,559
ask you about because look uh you're

1340
01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:18,960
you're again just being yourself and i

1341
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:20,160
respect that

1342
01:00:25,109 --> 01:00:23,440
uh you are one of the

1343
01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:25,119
one of the best songwriters i've ever

1344
01:00:32,789 --> 01:00:29,280
been around and you have an orchestral

1345
01:00:36,069 --> 01:00:32,799
um uh majestic way

1346
01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:36,079
of of writing and you see in 3d and it

1347
01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:38,480
will include you know heavy keyboards

1348
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:41,280
and strings and and this orchestral

1349
01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:42,720
mindset

1350
01:00:46,549 --> 01:00:45,040
and so don't sell yourself short you

1351
01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:46,559
could try to but you're not going to get

1352
01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:49,040
that past me and i want to talk about i

1353
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:51,440
want to talk about that after the after

1354
01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:52,799
after the break when we come back and

1355
01:00:54,870 --> 01:00:53,920
also

1356
01:00:57,430 --> 01:00:54,880
um

1357
01:00:58,950 --> 01:00:57,440
your studio i got a complete tour of it

1358
01:01:00,150 --> 01:00:58,960
today and i've seen pictures of it in

1359
01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:00,160
the past

1360
01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:02,079
your studio

1361
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:06,480
is when world class means one thing

1362
01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:07,920
there's

1363
01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:11,359
nothing better in the world maybe even

1364
01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:12,319
right

1365
01:01:18,630 --> 01:01:14,880
but your studio is truly world class

1366
01:01:20,710 --> 01:01:18,640
that is an amazing amazing studio i mean

1367
01:01:22,630 --> 01:01:20,720
thank you thank you and you know that

1368
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:22,640
you know that right it i can see the

1369
01:01:26,630 --> 01:01:24,480
love and devotion that is put into that

1370
01:01:29,109 --> 01:01:26,640
place and it's incredible

1371
01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:29,119
yeah it's my little crypt it's not small

1372
01:01:32,789 --> 01:01:31,119
but but it's my crypt that's for sure

1373
01:01:33,829 --> 01:01:32,799
it's my man

1374
01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:33,839
room

1375
01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:36,160
where i can sit and be myself

1376
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:38,799
sort of and enjoy it it's been a hard

1377
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:41,040
work for 30 years to get

1378
01:01:44,950 --> 01:01:42,400
all this stuff

1379
01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:44,960
and uh it's an incredible studio i'm

1380
01:01:49,750 --> 01:01:47,040
happy i'm really happy thank you well

1381
01:01:52,230 --> 01:01:49,760
you know for a radio host uh for you and

1382
01:01:55,109 --> 01:01:52,240
i to uh sit there and and you get to

1383
01:01:57,829 --> 01:01:55,119
hear me go dude 1072s

1384
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:57,839
10 73s 1080 ones

1385
01:02:03,589 --> 01:01:59,839
dude

1386
01:02:05,589 --> 01:02:03,599
right 1176. so these numbers i know what

1387
01:02:07,190 --> 01:02:05,599
i'm talking about and when i see that in

1388
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:07,200
your studio

1389
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:10,000
um that that it's on point it's an

1390
01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:12,000
incredible studio incredible uh let's

1391
01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:13,920
take our break right here this is fade

1392
01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:15,839
to black our guest tonight live from

1393
01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:18,079
sweden peter takaran of hypocrisy is

1394
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:21,440
here yes he is indeed the drum tech for

1395
01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:23,760
pain i'll be right back after this short

1396
01:02:30,789 --> 01:02:28,789
peter tackert is here i'm yours jimmy

1397
01:02:32,230 --> 01:02:30,799
church this is fade to black stay with

1398
01:02:33,370 --> 01:02:32,240
us we'll be right back after this short

1399
01:02:55,990 --> 01:02:33,380
break

1400
01:03:01,700 --> 01:02:58,230
this is fade to black with jimmy church

1401
01:03:03,190 --> 01:03:01,710
on the game changer radio network

1402
01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:03,200
[Music]

1403
01:03:09,109 --> 01:03:05,680
your 1 million gigawatt paranormal

1404
01:03:11,270 --> 01:03:09,119
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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fate to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight live

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from sweden all the way from sweden

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peter tacron is with us

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of course the producer principal

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songwriter front man of hypocrisy

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and the member

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of

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and right before the break um peter uh

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by the way uh peter is uh in his studio

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and uh during the break he was

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showing me racks of ssl preamps and you

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know i got to tell you man that's just

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not right that's just not right um so um

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uh right before the break i want to get

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back to ufos um

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and hypocrisy but before the break i did

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bring up

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you have a a melodic sense about you and

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you know exactly what i'm talking about

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and and

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i immediately hear that uh

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musically trained where where does this

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where does this orchestral

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lush thing come from

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um to be honest i have no idea

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uh

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for me it's

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the same thing there

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you paint a little bit here and there

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and things grows out and

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it gets in a certain way and sometimes

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when you start with the thing with the

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song

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it may not end up as you started

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maybe the thing you started you take

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away because it doesn't fit anymore to

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to the rest of the song uh for me with

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orchestra stuff

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i don't know i've been listening to a

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lot of

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classical stuff for a long time since i

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was a kid i i i've been an all-eater

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anything from rock and roll

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to to classic stuff and i remember

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remembering

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beginning of 90s i brainwashed myself

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with vivaldi a lot right you know i i

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really went into it through the four

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seasons stuff

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uh

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totally like yeah

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my

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adhd

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hits me again you know so

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for a half a year maybe i was just

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listening to that not only but a lot

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and

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stuff in the 90s all suddenly you had

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strings that sounded okay so you start

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dabbling with that and uh

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somehow

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in the in the 2000s i i really

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started to dig into it really a lot so i

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mean on the last paint album uh

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[Music]

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i did like the starseed song or coming

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home right uh it has a lot of strings to

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it and

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i had a friend of mine helping me out

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with the sounds because he has like a

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computer with the

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biggest refrigerator so to speak you

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know he has a lot of samplings and stuff

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and i sent him my melodies and stuff and

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he helped me

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build it up as an orchestra and stuff

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it was the same thing with the lindemann

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as well to to do

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you know brutal stuff

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insane uh

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image

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as you see and together with beautiful

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orchestra stuff it's just like you you

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try to

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you know shock in different ways in

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beauty and also in the east kind of

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right right right

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but for me in general

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it's

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that goes and

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when it hits you right the waves it's

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it's like an orgasm yeah sure sure sure

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and and and

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you can you have a style now you know

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you have that peter tacron style

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and

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is it

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uh

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i'm not i'm not coming out of left field

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here i'm i'm being very serious

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is it

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much nighttime

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not enough day time

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is it is it

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you know the weather the atmosphere

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is is that part of it too

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i have no clue so many people asked why

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is

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metal so strong from scandinavia

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norway has their black metal

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uh

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finland has the the more power metal the

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more melodic and

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01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:10,320
sweden has

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death metal i guess and also

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01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:15,199
more poppy stuff like abba ghost and

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01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:16,640
stuff like that but

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01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:18,480
i don't know where it comes from i i

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01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:24,229
i'm really brought up on a lot of

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english stuff from the 60s

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and also american stuff of course i mean

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you know like elvis presley is one of my

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01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:34,159
heroes

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and uh i grew up on that my mom and dad

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always listened to beatles and elvis

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presley and stuff like that so

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01:12:47,669 --> 01:12:44,960
i got a lot of that stuff and also

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yeah i don't know i like i said i i

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listen to all kinds of music

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01:12:54,229 --> 01:12:52,320
any any music that's good i love it it

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doesn't matter what it is i love shania

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twain

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i love johnny cash i love dia side i

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love morbid angel i

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01:13:05,590 --> 01:13:03,440
everything that that i consider is good

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now

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i'll just make this comment then we're

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getting back to ufos uh we have too much

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et stuff that we have to discuss tonight

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but you bring up a good point you bring

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up elvis presley and and you sent me a

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01:13:23,189 --> 01:13:21,920
bunch of the pain stuff a few years ago

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01:13:29,830 --> 01:13:23,199
and

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01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:29,840
like dude i didn't know you could play

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01:13:37,430 --> 01:13:32,480
drums like this i knew you know i knew

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01:13:38,709 --> 01:13:37,440
in that it was almost uh a 50s

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01:13:40,390 --> 01:13:38,719
swing

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01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:40,400
elvis

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01:13:45,990 --> 01:13:43,679
jailhouse rock drum style

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01:13:48,149 --> 01:13:46,000
right and it's the exact opposite of

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01:13:51,110 --> 01:13:48,159
what we would expect from you

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01:13:53,750 --> 01:13:51,120
and you had this foundation in in the

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01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:53,760
blues in a band like pain

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01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:54,640
yeah

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01:14:00,790 --> 01:13:58,000
i mean pain started off as a

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01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:00,800
ego trip for me uh trying to get away

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01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:02,960
from hypocrisy because i discovered that

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01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:04,880
i could write other stuff than death

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01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:07,440
metal and i didn't want to

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01:14:11,189 --> 01:14:09,920
destroy hypocrisy by changing style with

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01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:11,199
it so

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01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:13,120
it become it became my

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01:14:20,470 --> 01:14:17,360
one-man band show so to speak

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01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:20,480
the first album was a really failure i

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01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:22,640
mean i had something in mind but it

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01:14:26,149 --> 01:14:23,520
didn't

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01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:26,159
turn out that way it became more like

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01:14:30,790 --> 01:14:28,800
heavy metal

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01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:30,800
stylish i i wanted to go for more

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01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:33,280
industrial feeling to it you know more

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01:14:36,470 --> 01:14:35,760
computerized samplers and stuff in the

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01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:36,480
mid

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01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:38,880
90s but i didn't have the equipment i

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01:14:43,590 --> 01:14:41,440
didn't know how so it became more like a

1674
01:14:46,709 --> 01:14:43,600
heavy metal album i think it's more it's

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01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:46,719
it's industrial blues

1676
01:14:51,189 --> 01:14:48,719
yeah it could be but the second one and

1677
01:14:52,709 --> 01:14:51,199
the third one i actually

1678
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:52,719
started to get more

1679
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:55,199
gear so i could get the sound i wanted

1680
01:14:59,110 --> 01:14:56,880
and things like that so it kind of

1681
01:15:01,430 --> 01:14:59,120
developed i mean pain is you never know

1682
01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:01,440
what you get from every album

1683
01:15:06,070 --> 01:15:03,040
it's just a

1684
01:15:08,310 --> 01:15:06,080
yeah it's a journey for me now let's uh

1685
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:08,320
let's jump into uh the new album it's

1686
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:12,080
called warship heavy title heavy title

1687
01:15:17,669 --> 01:15:15,040
out of the gate right okay so

1688
01:15:20,790 --> 01:15:17,679
uh let's uh there there it is shock and

1689
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:20,800
awe and the album's called warship

1690
01:15:26,070 --> 01:15:22,080
um and

1691
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:26,080
the album cover and that concept

1692
01:15:30,790 --> 01:15:28,800
uh when you first told me your idea you

1693
01:15:33,189 --> 01:15:30,800
had an idea you said jimmy what do you

1694
01:15:36,310 --> 01:15:33,199
think about i got this idea

1695
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:36,320
i was like i actually got it i was

1696
01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:39,040
in a hotel down at um

1697
01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:40,880
uh

1698
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:43,280
was it ventura boulevard i was staying

1699
01:15:47,270 --> 01:15:45,360
when i was in the studio yeah i was

1700
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:47,280
laying in the bed and it just

1701
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:49,360
i had an epiphany or whatever you want

1702
01:15:53,510 --> 01:15:52,480
to call it about i didn't have a song or

1703
01:15:55,990 --> 01:15:53,520
anything

1704
01:15:58,950 --> 01:15:56,000
uh for the new hypocrisy but i had a

1705
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:58,960
cover in my head so i started spinning

1706
01:16:03,590 --> 01:16:00,400
around with this

1707
01:16:05,510 --> 01:16:03,600
i i wanted because for me i think

1708
01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:05,520
there's something with with the pyramids

1709
01:16:09,350 --> 01:16:08,000
it doesn't matter if the great pyramids

1710
01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:09,360
or if it's

1711
01:16:15,669 --> 01:16:13,920
pyramids or whatever

1712
01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:15,679
there's something there that that

1713
01:16:19,270 --> 01:16:17,920
fascinates me and i'm not the only

1714
01:16:22,310 --> 01:16:19,280
person i guess

1715
01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:22,320
and uh i could just see because you know

1716
01:16:26,630 --> 01:16:23,760
we have this uh

1717
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:26,640
tribal that looks like a cross

1718
01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:27,520
and

1719
01:16:30,550 --> 01:16:29,120
you know in the 70s

1720
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:30,560
i remember

1721
01:16:35,189 --> 01:16:32,719
electric like orchestra they made their

1722
01:16:36,390 --> 01:16:35,199
logo into a spaceship i think boston did

1723
01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:36,400
the same thing

1724
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:38,560
and there was a few bad yeah and i want

1725
01:16:41,669 --> 01:16:40,960
i wanted that feeling back so

1726
01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:41,679
i

1727
01:16:46,709 --> 01:16:44,080
converted the the crosses to

1728
01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:46,719
spaceships and uh

1729
01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:48,480
you should have seen i had a napkin

1730
01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:50,480
beside me at the bed and i started

1731
01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:52,640
drawing this thing too bad i don't still

1732
01:16:57,030 --> 01:16:54,880
have it because it looked silly but you

1733
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:57,040
had this cross and and these things and

1734
01:17:00,550 --> 01:16:59,280
i wanted people to to raise their hands

1735
01:17:01,669 --> 01:17:00,560
up to

1736
01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:01,679
to the

1737
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:07,120
the gods are coming back you know

1738
01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:09,520
kind of the creators are coming back

1739
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:12,320
now um let's take this further i want

1740
01:17:16,350 --> 01:17:14,640
you to describe to the audience you can

1741
01:17:18,070 --> 01:17:16,360
go to

1742
01:17:19,350 --> 01:17:18,080
hypocrisyband.com all the links are

1743
01:17:21,669 --> 01:17:19,360
there and you can look at the cover of

1744
01:17:23,430 --> 01:17:21,679
the album if you want to uh check out

1745
01:17:24,870 --> 01:17:23,440
what we're talking about

1746
01:17:27,669 --> 01:17:24,880
but uh

1747
01:17:29,110 --> 01:17:27,679
you chose to have

1748
01:17:30,790 --> 01:17:29,120
an alien

1749
01:17:33,510 --> 01:17:30,800
and e.t

1750
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:33,520
um standing in front of the pyramid

1751
01:17:37,750 --> 01:17:35,280
behind this

1752
01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:37,760
crowd of worshipers

1753
01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:39,679
now yeah and there are also aliens yeah

1754
01:17:42,390 --> 01:17:40,560
there are

1755
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:42,400
if you look really close you can see

1756
01:17:47,030 --> 01:17:43,360
that

1757
01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:47,040
and now um the concept of

1758
01:17:52,709 --> 01:17:49,120
the imaging i should say

1759
01:17:56,149 --> 01:17:52,719
of your choice of alien race or species

1760
01:18:00,390 --> 01:17:56,159
right yeah um that was a big deal to you

1761
01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:00,400
um so uh describe that concept and how

1762
01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:03,440
you came up with this uh this

1763
01:18:09,910 --> 01:18:06,400
this um i don't even know what to say

1764
01:18:13,030 --> 01:18:09,920
uh a god an alien god

1765
01:18:14,950 --> 01:18:13,040
i would say the crowd uh i kind of

1766
01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:14,960
reversed it because a lot of people

1767
01:18:18,310 --> 01:18:17,040
would say like yeah we are the ones who

1768
01:18:20,709 --> 01:18:18,320
who's gonna

1769
01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:20,719
worship the the aliens when they come

1770
01:18:26,630 --> 01:18:23,440
back but i did the opposite

1771
01:18:28,550 --> 01:18:26,640
uh it's the aliens who worship us when

1772
01:18:29,669 --> 01:18:28,560
we're coming back

1773
01:18:31,189 --> 01:18:29,679
uh

1774
01:18:33,990 --> 01:18:31,199
it was just

1775
01:18:35,430 --> 01:18:34,000
some idea i had because i think in the

1776
01:18:39,110 --> 01:18:35,440
future

1777
01:18:44,390 --> 01:18:41,510
i can see

1778
01:18:45,990 --> 01:18:44,400
it different from anything from

1779
01:18:47,350 --> 01:18:46,000
interstellar

1780
01:18:50,149 --> 01:18:47,360
kind of things

1781
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:50,159
where we go away and

1782
01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:52,480
yeah you can call them

1783
01:18:57,189 --> 01:18:55,199
extraterrestrials or whatever

1784
01:18:59,750 --> 01:18:57,199
pops up on earth

1785
01:19:01,510 --> 01:18:59,760
because i i think there's a lot of them

1786
01:19:05,830 --> 01:19:01,520
maybe live in uh

1787
01:19:08,709 --> 01:19:05,840
caverns on underground i think there's

1788
01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:08,719
yeah under the sea you know still in in

1789
01:19:13,430 --> 01:19:10,960
the um in the earth because you know the

1790
01:19:16,149 --> 01:19:13,440
earth is like a honeycomb you know so

1791
01:19:17,669 --> 01:19:16,159
there's a lot of huge caverns and i i

1792
01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:17,679
still

1793
01:19:24,149 --> 01:19:20,640
have this idea of fascination of

1794
01:19:26,550 --> 01:19:24,159
of uh civilizations that that we've

1795
01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:26,560
never seen that are here and been here

1796
01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:29,280
for thousands of years underground

1797
01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:30,880
but also you know

1798
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:32,480
if you if you look at the moon it's not

1799
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:34,480
too far away from here and that's a

1800
01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:37,360
satellite you know it's uh

1801
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:44,149
spy satellite

1802
01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:47,440
to keep an eye on us mm-hmm a little bit

1803
01:19:54,950 --> 01:19:53,189
but i think

1804
01:19:57,189 --> 01:19:54,960
it's definitely

1805
01:19:58,470 --> 01:19:57,199
uh

1806
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:58,480
made

1807
01:20:01,669 --> 01:19:59,520
not from

1808
01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:01,679
a bunch of different asteroids crashing

1809
01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:03,840
into each other or whatever i think it's

1810
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:04,960
just

1811
01:20:10,950 --> 01:20:07,360
i can't say man-made but you know

1812
01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:10,960
someone made it yeah manufactured um now

1813
01:20:13,030 --> 01:20:11,920
the

1814
01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:13,040
um

1815
01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:14,320
the

1816
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:16,960
what period

1817
01:20:19,669 --> 01:20:18,400
is the

1818
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:19,679
what year

1819
01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:23,360
is the cover of the album supposed to be

1820
01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:25,199
is that today

1821
01:20:30,149 --> 01:20:28,400
or is it 5 000 years ago

1822
01:20:31,750 --> 01:20:30,159
no it's the future

1823
01:20:34,229 --> 01:20:31,760
it's the future

1824
01:20:36,550 --> 01:20:34,239
yeah that that's why the aliens are

1825
01:20:38,629 --> 01:20:36,560
standing and worshipping us oh so

1826
01:20:40,550 --> 01:20:38,639
they're coming back

1827
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:40,560
no we're coming back oh we're coming

1828
01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:43,199
back see they're already here anyhow now

1829
01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:45,600
see that's the beauty of an album cover

1830
01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:47,679
right you just brought this up

1831
01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:49,840
you look at album covers when you're a

1832
01:20:52,709 --> 01:20:50,880
kid

1833
01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:52,719
and however

1834
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:54,960
you interpret it however you resonate

1835
01:20:57,669 --> 01:20:56,400
with it that's your own personal

1836
01:21:00,790 --> 01:20:57,679
experience

1837
01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:00,800
so this is what i and i've been looking

1838
01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:03,040
at your album cover now for three years

1839
01:21:07,910 --> 01:21:04,480
right let's not make any of it i've been

1840
01:21:12,709 --> 01:21:10,470
i thought this was my thing

1841
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:12,719
that this was

1842
01:21:18,229 --> 01:21:16,000
when the mayan pyramid was built

1843
01:21:20,870 --> 01:21:18,239
and that was

1844
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:20,880
uh 1500 years ago

1845
01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:24,560
in in central america and the ets were

1846
01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:26,000
here visiting

1847
01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:29,040
and and being worshipped

1848
01:21:35,830 --> 01:21:31,679
back then that's that's that was my take

1849
01:21:40,830 --> 01:21:39,030
i'm sorry i i have to be complicated it

1850
01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:40,840
could even be the mayan people coming

1851
01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:43,199
back you know

1852
01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:44,239
but uh

1853
01:21:49,990 --> 01:21:46,560
my point was really i do have a simple

1854
01:21:51,669 --> 01:21:50,000
mind peter i do have a simple mind so me

1855
01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:51,679
too but

1856
01:21:55,910 --> 01:21:53,520
i mean

1857
01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:55,920
it i i wanted it to be more than what

1858
01:22:00,390 --> 01:21:59,360
meets the eye you know and uh

1859
01:22:03,830 --> 01:22:00,400
i don't know

1860
01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:03,840
like i said for me it's fascinating uh

1861
01:22:08,310 --> 01:22:06,560
to just take your mind and just go

1862
01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:08,320
banana that's

1863
01:22:11,110 --> 01:22:09,440
really

1864
01:22:13,110 --> 01:22:11,120
something i enjoy

1865
01:22:16,390 --> 01:22:13,120
it keeps me sane from

1866
01:22:19,430 --> 01:22:16,400
what the world is today kind of

1867
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:19,440
and um i wanted to ask you

1868
01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:20,400
uh

1869
01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:31,360
gonna get to that we talked about

1870
01:22:34,149 --> 01:22:32,800
chemical [\h__\h] but i want to get

1871
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:34,159
straight to

1872
01:22:38,550 --> 01:22:36,880
um children of the gray

1873
01:22:41,350 --> 01:22:38,560
yeah and

1874
01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:41,360
uh tell me about the idea behind that

1875
01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:43,120
song

1876
01:22:47,830 --> 01:22:45,040
yeah uh

1877
01:22:49,990 --> 01:22:47,840
it's kind of simple uh it's really how

1878
01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:50,000
we screw up things

1879
01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:51,520
uh

1880
01:22:54,950 --> 01:22:52,400
on earth

1881
01:22:58,470 --> 01:22:54,960
and uh it's

1882
01:23:00,390 --> 01:22:58,480
to to make a long story short it's like

1883
01:23:02,229 --> 01:23:00,400
when we screwed up enough

1884
01:23:05,030 --> 01:23:02,239
uh

1885
01:23:06,390 --> 01:23:05,040
they're coming back to to

1886
01:23:08,709 --> 01:23:06,400
uh reclaim

1887
01:23:09,830 --> 01:23:08,719
the whole thing so to say to

1888
01:23:11,830 --> 01:23:09,840
um

1889
01:23:13,830 --> 01:23:11,840
i don't know how to explain uh to say

1890
01:23:16,470 --> 01:23:13,840
like to erase us

1891
01:23:18,070 --> 01:23:16,480
kind of when all the hope hopes are gone

1892
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:18,080
you paved the way for the children of

1893
01:23:22,390 --> 01:23:20,159
the great when you sold your soul to the

1894
01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:22,400
man you lose the game to the children of

1895
01:23:26,229 --> 01:23:24,400
the gay great

1896
01:23:27,510 --> 01:23:26,239
so i mean

1897
01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:27,520
yeah

1898
01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:29,199
when we're

1899
01:23:34,070 --> 01:23:30,960
screwed it up enough

1900
01:23:36,870 --> 01:23:34,080
you know we we basically

1901
01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:36,880
give it back to them

1902
01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:37,840
the

1903
01:23:45,830 --> 01:23:43,199
this why i brought that up um

1904
01:23:47,030 --> 01:23:45,840
the atmosphere that we find ourselves

1905
01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:47,040
today

1906
01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:50,239
and people always have mentioned in the

1907
01:23:53,189 --> 01:23:51,120
past

1908
01:23:54,790 --> 01:23:53,199
that the world is in flux we need to

1909
01:23:56,149 --> 01:23:54,800
straighten things out well you know what

1910
01:23:59,110 --> 01:23:56,159
they've been saying that for a thousand

1911
01:24:03,189 --> 01:23:59,120
years this isn't this isn't some modern

1912
01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:03,199
concept right but truly today

1913
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:05,760
if we were ever in a moment of we need

1914
01:24:11,270 --> 01:24:07,920
to snap to attention

1915
01:24:14,070 --> 01:24:11,280
it's happening right now for sure

1916
01:24:16,629 --> 01:24:14,080
we're past that unfortunately yeah right

1917
01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:16,639
right but you know the the last thing

1918
01:24:21,669 --> 01:24:19,440
that dies with you is the hope so you

1919
01:24:25,270 --> 01:24:21,679
know we got to stay strong and and try

1920
01:24:29,110 --> 01:24:25,280
to think a little bit more than our nose

1921
01:24:32,070 --> 01:24:29,120
and how do we reach us how do we do that

1922
01:24:35,110 --> 01:24:32,080
that's a good question i mean i am not a

1923
01:24:37,189 --> 01:24:35,120
perfect example of that unfortunately

1924
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:37,199
uh

1925
01:24:42,709 --> 01:24:39,520
i i really don't know to be honest

1926
01:24:45,350 --> 01:24:42,719
it feels hopeless sometimes

1927
01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:45,360
you know uh i guess over the last couple

1928
01:24:49,669 --> 01:24:47,440
of hundred years we we

1929
01:24:52,390 --> 01:24:49,679
started to um

1930
01:24:54,790 --> 01:24:52,400
put it this way i mean homo sapiens has

1931
01:24:57,189 --> 01:24:54,800
been around for 200 000 years so

1932
01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:57,199
some people say like 150 some people say

1933
01:25:00,149 --> 01:24:58,800
300 000

1934
01:25:02,470 --> 01:25:00,159
and you know it

1935
01:25:04,470 --> 01:25:02,480
it started in

1936
01:25:06,390 --> 01:25:04,480
central africa i think you know and then

1937
01:25:07,510 --> 01:25:06,400
it migrated

1938
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:07,520
up to

1939
01:25:10,830 --> 01:25:09,360
europe and then middle east and then to

1940
01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:10,840
america

1941
01:25:16,550 --> 01:25:14,239
and and so on but the funny thing

1942
01:25:17,590 --> 01:25:16,560
you know we were all

1943
01:25:20,229 --> 01:25:17,600
kind of

1944
01:25:22,950 --> 01:25:20,239
yeah not so smart not so developed but

1945
01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:22,960
the last 200 years it just went like

1946
01:25:30,229 --> 01:25:27,120
this boom and all suddenly we

1947
01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:30,239
uh somehow we we got so smart

1948
01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:31,199
you know

1949
01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:34,080
uh from being kind of a cave people know

1950
01:25:39,830 --> 01:25:37,040
but you know what i mean i do and and i

1951
01:25:41,830 --> 01:25:39,840
think someone has been tampering with

1952
01:25:43,270 --> 01:25:41,840
our dna to make us a little bit smarter

1953
01:25:45,750 --> 01:25:43,280
but i think they made us a little bit

1954
01:25:47,350 --> 01:25:45,760
too smart so now he's self-destructive

1955
01:25:49,030 --> 01:25:47,360
instead so

1956
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:49,040
that's also another thing i'm singing

1957
01:25:51,910 --> 01:25:50,960
about you know that they're coming back

1958
01:25:52,830 --> 01:25:51,920
to set

1959
01:25:54,790 --> 01:25:52,840
things

1960
01:25:57,910 --> 01:25:54,800
straight

1961
01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:57,920
the concept of of what you just

1962
01:26:02,870 --> 01:25:59,120
mentioned

1963
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:02,880
it's very hard because we have come so

1964
01:26:09,350 --> 01:26:05,920
far so fast right yeah but it's very

1965
01:26:12,470 --> 01:26:09,360
hard for people to understand

1966
01:26:16,590 --> 01:26:12,480
when i say or you say

1967
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:16,600
you know 100 100 years ago 100 we're in

1968
01:26:24,550 --> 01:26:22,000
2022. in 1900 right a lifetime ago we

1969
01:26:27,750 --> 01:26:24,560
were still using gas lamps

1970
01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:27,760
we still had horses and covered wagons

1971
01:26:33,750 --> 01:26:30,880
exactly and 60 years after that

1972
01:26:35,830 --> 01:26:33,760
we had woodstock and jimi hendrix

1973
01:26:38,790 --> 01:26:35,840
right yeah and then a couple of more

1974
01:26:40,709 --> 01:26:38,800
years we're at the moon yes what's going

1975
01:26:42,550 --> 01:26:40,719
on here and you know a lot of people are

1976
01:26:46,070 --> 01:26:42,560
talking about what they found

1977
01:26:47,910 --> 01:26:46,080
in roswell uh you know like uh

1978
01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:47,920
optic fibers

1979
01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:52,000
lead stuff uh vision goggles right and

1980
01:26:56,709 --> 01:26:54,000
things like that so

1981
01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:56,719
somehow they mean that

1982
01:27:02,149 --> 01:27:00,239
we got a lot of help right there without

1983
01:27:04,950 --> 01:27:02,159
even

1984
01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:05,990
because

1985
01:27:12,629 --> 01:27:09,280
we had some vehicles that would were

1986
01:27:13,510 --> 01:27:12,639
crashed and in our possession so uh

1987
01:27:15,110 --> 01:27:13,520
uh

1988
01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:15,120
i guess we got a little bit help there

1989
01:27:18,310 --> 01:27:16,000
and

1990
01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:18,320
you know i always think you know are we

1991
01:27:22,709 --> 01:27:20,000
working with them or are we not you know

1992
01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:22,719
i know linda always talks about these

1993
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:24,880
three different races

1994
01:27:28,550 --> 01:27:25,760
uh

1995
01:27:30,629 --> 01:27:28,560
you know one that's not so so nice and

1996
01:27:31,870 --> 01:27:30,639
two other ones and you know they've been

1997
01:27:34,629 --> 01:27:31,880
around for

1998
01:27:36,149 --> 01:27:34,639
280 million years and things like that

1999
01:27:38,390 --> 01:27:36,159
and

2000
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:38,400
you know for me it's just like i'm in

2001
01:27:43,110 --> 01:27:40,320
between all these things i'm like yeah

2002
01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:43,120
it could be but no it can't be you know

2003
01:27:47,350 --> 01:27:45,520
things like that it always hits me i

2004
01:27:49,669 --> 01:27:47,360
always have to think twice

2005
01:27:52,629 --> 01:27:49,679
you know before i start you know writing

2006
01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:52,639
about things like that but

2007
01:27:55,990 --> 01:27:54,880
i don't think they want us

2008
01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:56,000
to uh

2009
01:28:00,470 --> 01:27:58,320
to know about them i i remember also i

2010
01:28:03,750 --> 01:28:00,480
saw this um

2011
01:28:07,030 --> 01:28:03,760
this uh uh let me think here uh yeah the

2012
01:28:10,070 --> 01:28:07,040
guy from israel uh this uh space um the

2013
01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:10,080
rocket uh director of defense forces

2014
01:28:14,870 --> 01:28:12,880
exactly yeah you know he start

2015
01:28:17,910 --> 01:28:14,880
talking about what we've been

2016
01:28:19,510 --> 01:28:17,920
hearing for 25 30 years and it seems

2017
01:28:21,350 --> 01:28:19,520
like he just heard it then he started

2018
01:28:23,510 --> 01:28:21,360
writing a book about it so it was kind

2019
01:28:26,229 --> 01:28:23,520
of funny it's like yeah old stuff old

2020
01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:26,239
stuff but you know what if it is true

2021
01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:27,920
what he said you know because we heard

2022
01:28:34,390 --> 01:28:29,520
it for so long

2023
01:28:36,470 --> 01:28:34,400
this story that he he was telling and um

2024
01:28:38,950 --> 01:28:36,480
i don't know i yeah maybe he's right

2025
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:38,960
maybe they don't want us

2026
01:28:43,189 --> 01:28:41,040
to know they're here they want us to to

2027
01:28:45,590 --> 01:28:43,199
do our own thing and they don't really

2028
01:28:47,750 --> 01:28:45,600
want to interfere with us they're more

2029
01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:47,760
observing what what's going on what what

2030
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:50,400
they have breeded so to speak could you

2031
01:28:55,590 --> 01:28:52,800
handle you haven't had your own siding

2032
01:28:58,629 --> 01:28:55,600
right but unfortunately could you handle

2033
01:29:00,629 --> 01:28:58,639
it could you handle the real deal you

2034
01:29:03,030 --> 01:29:00,639
step out on your back patio it's a night

2035
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:03,040
sky you live on a lake this

2036
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:06,239
this craft shows up and it's right there

2037
01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:08,880
and you and your family see it

2038
01:29:13,669 --> 01:29:12,080
the the sighting

2039
01:29:15,030 --> 01:29:13,679
and it confirms everything that you've

2040
01:29:17,030 --> 01:29:15,040
been writing and thinking about in a

2041
01:29:18,229 --> 01:29:17,040
research could you handle something like

2042
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:18,239
that

2043
01:29:22,790 --> 01:29:20,560
i don't know i mean

2044
01:29:25,669 --> 01:29:22,800
right now i think i could but if i would

2045
01:29:28,390 --> 01:29:25,679
stand there and see it you know if and

2046
01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:28,400
also if you push it even further since i

2047
01:29:32,149 --> 01:29:30,080
live out in the woods

2048
01:29:33,430 --> 01:29:32,159
it resembles a little bit uh whitley

2049
01:29:36,629 --> 01:29:33,440
street birds

2050
01:29:39,189 --> 01:29:36,639
things in the 80s you know right

2051
01:29:41,030 --> 01:29:39,199
and i remember when i read that book i i

2052
01:29:42,790 --> 01:29:41,040
didn't go to the bathroom

2053
01:29:44,629 --> 01:29:42,800
you know at night i just hold it till

2054
01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:44,639
the morning when the sun came up i was

2055
01:29:49,270 --> 01:29:46,800
looking under my bed i was

2056
01:29:52,070 --> 01:29:49,280
checking my doors thousand times after i

2057
01:29:54,149 --> 01:29:52,080
read that book i got really paranoid

2058
01:29:56,229 --> 01:29:54,159
sometimes it hits me because i like i

2059
01:29:58,550 --> 01:29:56,239
said i live so secluded

2060
01:30:00,709 --> 01:29:58,560
and there's mountains around and i

2061
01:30:03,590 --> 01:30:00,719
always think about that's where they're

2062
01:30:05,510 --> 01:30:03,600
gonna come up if if i would ever see any

2063
01:30:07,350 --> 01:30:05,520
lights or anything it will be there but

2064
01:30:09,669 --> 01:30:07,360
i would probably be surprised it would

2065
01:30:12,149 --> 01:30:09,679
come from somewhere else and it would

2066
01:30:14,149 --> 01:30:12,159
knock me on my butt

2067
01:30:15,350 --> 01:30:14,159
when i read communion and i'm not

2068
01:30:17,510 --> 01:30:15,360
kidding man

2069
01:30:20,550 --> 01:30:17,520
i read it like three times in a week i

2070
01:30:23,030 --> 01:30:20,560
did i did i started it over but in my

2071
01:30:26,149 --> 01:30:23,040
bedroom i had uh two

2072
01:30:27,990 --> 01:30:26,159
two uh two walls with floor to ceiling

2073
01:30:29,270 --> 01:30:28,000
with these tall windows right with these

2074
01:30:31,510 --> 01:30:29,280
white curtains

2075
01:30:32,709 --> 01:30:31,520
dude i was i was reading

2076
01:30:37,430 --> 01:30:32,719
the book

2077
01:30:40,629 --> 01:30:37,440
but i could have one eye on a window

2078
01:30:43,910 --> 01:30:40,639
i know the feeling man exactly it was a

2079
01:30:45,350 --> 01:30:43,920
it was a bad couple of weeks for me

2080
01:30:46,950 --> 01:30:45,360
let's take our break right here i wanted

2081
01:30:49,189 --> 01:30:46,960
to ask you um

2082
01:30:50,629 --> 01:30:49,199
you are remote can you order a pizza

2083
01:30:53,189 --> 01:30:50,639
what do you do

2084
01:30:55,350 --> 01:30:53,199
nope not here no you can't can you you

2085
01:30:57,110 --> 01:30:55,360
have to go to the to the pizza place if

2086
01:30:58,950 --> 01:30:57,120
you want anything you want you got to go

2087
01:31:02,270 --> 01:30:58,960
to the store if you want anything

2088
01:31:04,950 --> 01:31:02,280
there's no luxury like that

2089
01:31:07,189 --> 01:31:04,960
[Laughter]

2090
01:31:09,990 --> 01:31:07,199
you pay the price don't you

2091
01:31:13,430 --> 01:31:10,000
hey i paid the price for freedom i don't

2092
01:31:15,350 --> 01:31:13,440
care i'll eat dog poop if i have to then

2093
01:31:18,550 --> 01:31:15,360
i'll guess tonight the one and only

2094
01:31:20,629 --> 01:31:18,560
peter tacron is with us live from sweden

2095
01:31:22,229 --> 01:31:20,639
this is fade to black

2096
01:31:25,350 --> 01:31:22,239
we've got a lot to talk about tonight

2097
01:31:27,189 --> 01:31:25,360
with peter um they are in rehearsals

2098
01:31:28,629 --> 01:31:27,199
getting ready to kick off the world tour

2099
01:31:30,709 --> 01:31:28,639
i'll be seeing peter in a couple of

2100
01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:30,719
months here in los angeles

2101
01:31:33,910 --> 01:31:32,320
more with peter after this short break

2102
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:33,920
this is fade to black i'm yours jimmy

2103
01:31:47,750 --> 01:31:36,930
church stay with us

2104
01:31:53,100 --> 01:31:50,950
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2105
01:31:55,750 --> 01:31:53,110
you're listening to fade to black

2106
01:31:57,910 --> 01:31:55,760
[Applause]

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01:31:59,430 --> 01:31:57,920
you're listening to jimmy church and

2108
01:32:04,470 --> 01:31:59,440
fade to black

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01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:09,750
[Applause]

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01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:17,910
jimmy church radio

2111
01:32:24,229 --> 01:32:19,750
this is jimmy church of fade to black

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01:35:23,590 --> 01:35:18,790
you are listening to fate to black with

2176
01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:26,149
hi i'm reecey vance you're listening to

2177
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jimmy church this is revolution the

2178
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revolution will not be televised the

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revolution is on radio

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[Music]

2181
01:36:21,590 --> 01:36:19,510
welcome back

2182
01:36:23,669 --> 01:36:21,600
fade to black i'm your host jimmy church

2183
01:36:24,790 --> 01:36:23,679
tonight peter tacron is live from sweden

2184
01:36:27,590 --> 01:36:24,800
with us

2185
01:36:31,750 --> 01:36:27,600
watching him play air drums

2186
01:36:34,229 --> 01:36:31,760
in the commercial break and uh

2187
01:36:37,189 --> 01:36:34,239
that's chris that's chris

2188
01:36:39,270 --> 01:36:37,199
frazier on drums it's just an amazing

2189
01:36:40,950 --> 01:36:39,280
drummer when when those when those

2190
01:36:43,350 --> 01:36:40,960
tracks were cut

2191
01:36:46,310 --> 01:36:43,360
he was in the studio with steve

2192
01:36:49,030 --> 01:36:46,320
uh doing alien love secrets so both

2193
01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:49,040
sessions were going on at the same time

2194
01:36:54,470 --> 01:36:52,560
and is it the same studio uh no no those

2195
01:36:56,229 --> 01:36:54,480
you ready okay

2196
01:36:58,149 --> 01:36:56,239
yeah i told you about this production

2197
01:37:00,790 --> 01:36:58,159
with this it's

2198
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:00,800
amazing the bass sounds amazing the drum

2199
01:37:05,590 --> 01:37:02,800
sounds amazing the guitar sounds amazing

2200
01:37:08,470 --> 01:37:05,600
what did you do the drums were cut

2201
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:08,480
at the foot of doug's bed

2202
01:37:12,709 --> 01:37:10,480
in his bedroom

2203
01:37:13,590 --> 01:37:12,719
unbelievable unbelievable

2204
01:37:17,109 --> 01:37:13,600
that

2205
01:37:19,510 --> 01:37:17,119
eight hats adapts home studios literally

2206
01:37:22,149 --> 01:37:19,520
when i say that those were cut in uh the

2207
01:37:24,790 --> 01:37:22,159
drums were cut in doug's bedroom

2208
01:37:27,109 --> 01:37:24,800
and uh you know when it sounds right and

2209
01:37:28,390 --> 01:37:27,119
it's it's all about mics and placement

2210
01:37:30,310 --> 01:37:28,400
and and

2211
01:37:31,830 --> 01:37:30,320
and taping pictures to the wall so they

2212
01:37:32,550 --> 01:37:31,840
don't vibrate you know things like that

2213
01:37:35,270 --> 01:37:32,560
but

2214
01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:35,280
uh yeah yeah it was just uh one of those

2215
01:37:39,750 --> 01:37:37,440
things it he's just a talented drummer

2216
01:37:41,270 --> 01:37:39,760
and he hits him correctly that's what i

2217
01:37:45,270 --> 01:37:41,280
mean also there's

2218
01:37:47,030 --> 01:37:45,280
i i recorded so many drummers and uh

2219
01:37:48,870 --> 01:37:47,040
uh

2220
01:37:52,310 --> 01:37:48,880
you know you ca you can use the same

2221
01:37:54,310 --> 01:37:52,320
drum set the same setups but if you

2222
01:37:56,229 --> 01:37:54,320
change the drummer it will change the

2223
01:37:58,229 --> 01:37:56,239
sound and it's the same thing with a

2224
01:37:59,510 --> 01:37:58,239
guitarist or a bass player it's all in

2225
01:38:02,870 --> 01:37:59,520
the wrists

2226
01:38:06,390 --> 01:38:02,880
and it's all in the technique uh i would

2227
01:38:08,470 --> 01:38:06,400
say but no i have to give you the

2228
01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:08,480
the hats off for the production on that

2229
01:38:12,470 --> 01:38:09,600
album it's

2230
01:38:14,870 --> 01:38:12,480
for me it sounds really really good yeah

2231
01:38:18,629 --> 01:38:14,880
yeah and uh very proud of it and i'm

2232
01:38:21,430 --> 01:38:18,639
very proud so um you're in rehearsals

2233
01:38:23,990 --> 01:38:21,440
hypocrisy he's in rehearsals uh we are

2234
01:38:27,910 --> 01:38:24,000
sitting on april 4th man

2235
01:38:31,430 --> 01:38:27,920
your your your tour starts uh

2236
01:38:34,229 --> 01:38:31,440
uh later this month in in new york 29th

2237
01:38:36,149 --> 01:38:34,239
yeah in brooklyn 29th i'm still waiting

2238
01:38:38,070 --> 01:38:36,159
for my visa application they're not

2239
01:38:40,470 --> 01:38:38,080
working fast in america right now i'll

2240
01:38:42,310 --> 01:38:40,480
tell you

2241
01:38:45,109 --> 01:38:42,320
but it will come you know it's always in

2242
01:38:47,350 --> 01:38:45,119
the last minute it's always like that

2243
01:38:50,470 --> 01:38:47,360
so uh

2244
01:38:52,310 --> 01:38:50,480
yeah we're doing a lot of

2245
01:38:54,310 --> 01:38:52,320
new old songs

2246
01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:54,320
and also new songs from the new album as

2247
01:38:56,709 --> 01:38:55,360
well so

2248
01:39:05,669 --> 01:38:56,719
i

2249
01:39:07,990 --> 01:39:05,679
every day now and

2250
01:39:11,350 --> 01:39:08,000
remember old songs that we never played

2251
01:39:12,830 --> 01:39:11,360
and and old songs that we played maybe

2252
01:39:16,629 --> 01:39:12,840
10 times

2253
01:39:19,990 --> 01:39:16,639
1994 or something like that or or so

2254
01:39:22,310 --> 01:39:20,000
there's a lot of we changed completely

2255
01:39:24,070 --> 01:39:22,320
our set list i mean there's certain

2256
01:39:26,310 --> 01:39:24,080
songs that we have to

2257
01:39:28,629 --> 01:39:26,320
play you know it's just the way it is

2258
01:39:30,709 --> 01:39:28,639
you know the hits so to speak

2259
01:39:33,030 --> 01:39:30,719
and also we wanted to

2260
01:39:35,109 --> 01:39:33,040
bring in some old stuff that

2261
01:39:36,550 --> 01:39:35,119
we have never played or we haven't

2262
01:39:37,590 --> 01:39:36,560
played for a thousand years and things

2263
01:39:41,109 --> 01:39:37,600
like that so

2264
01:39:43,350 --> 01:39:41,119
my brain is going like on full speed and

2265
01:39:45,590 --> 01:39:43,360
i it just feels like i can't remember

2266
01:39:47,590 --> 01:39:45,600
anything you know how it is sometimes

2267
01:39:49,430 --> 01:39:47,600
when you start panicking and you feel

2268
01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:49,440
like oh the clock is ticking the clock

2269
01:39:53,750 --> 01:39:51,600
is ticking and i haven't even stand up

2270
01:39:55,270 --> 01:39:53,760
and start screaming and playing at the

2271
01:39:57,109 --> 01:39:55,280
same time i just tried to figure out

2272
01:39:59,109 --> 01:39:57,119
what the hell i was playing

2273
01:40:01,350 --> 01:39:59,119
those days and what i played on the new

2274
01:40:02,709 --> 01:40:01,360
album because when you write music you

2275
01:40:03,590 --> 01:40:02,719
sit on your

2276
01:40:05,590 --> 01:40:03,600
chair

2277
01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:05,600
and just punch yourself in on different

2278
01:40:08,870 --> 01:40:07,600
riffs and stuff like that until you

2279
01:40:11,910 --> 01:40:08,880
build a song

2280
01:40:14,149 --> 01:40:11,920
so you really don't have any

2281
01:40:16,709 --> 01:40:14,159
concept of what what's going on really

2282
01:40:18,950 --> 01:40:16,719
you you just it's more

2283
01:40:20,629 --> 01:40:18,960
uh

2284
01:40:23,510 --> 01:40:20,639
you don't get the flow like when you're

2285
01:40:25,830 --> 01:40:23,520
standing in a rehearsal room uh trying

2286
01:40:27,830 --> 01:40:25,840
to uh write music together you know

2287
01:40:30,390 --> 01:40:27,840
that's how it grows and it sticks in

2288
01:40:32,870 --> 01:40:30,400
your backbones you know but when you do

2289
01:40:34,550 --> 01:40:32,880
it like this i sit in program drums and

2290
01:40:35,590 --> 01:40:34,560
then i start writing music and stuff

2291
01:40:37,669 --> 01:40:35,600
like that

2292
01:40:39,030 --> 01:40:37,679
it's hard to get the reality in it when

2293
01:40:40,709 --> 01:40:39,040
it's done

2294
01:40:43,030 --> 01:40:40,719
don't forget to pack your uh fade to

2295
01:40:46,470 --> 01:40:43,040
black shirt by the way oh i got it i got

2296
01:40:49,270 --> 01:40:46,480
it just i'm just making sure um

2297
01:40:52,870 --> 01:40:49,280
i wanted to ask you really quick um

2298
01:40:54,310 --> 01:40:52,880
what what is there a difference

2299
01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:54,320
uh

2300
01:40:57,910 --> 01:40:55,760
with you

2301
01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:57,920
at a festival you know flying in on a

2302
01:41:02,390 --> 01:41:00,320
helicopter and going out and having a

2303
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:02,400
hundred thousand people in front of you

2304
01:41:10,149 --> 01:41:03,440
or

2305
01:41:12,149 --> 01:41:10,159
sold out fans you know what what is is

2306
01:41:14,310 --> 01:41:12,159
there a difference on on how you

2307
01:41:16,950 --> 01:41:14,320
approach that

2308
01:41:19,430 --> 01:41:16,960
yeah actually uh

2309
01:41:20,550 --> 01:41:19,440
uh i would say festival is good for your

2310
01:41:22,470 --> 01:41:20,560
eagle

2311
01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:22,480
but it doesn't really give you the

2312
01:41:26,870 --> 01:41:24,400
energy back from the crowd because it's

2313
01:41:28,629 --> 01:41:26,880
too far away somehow you can't really

2314
01:41:30,709 --> 01:41:28,639
take off your guitar and jump into the

2315
01:41:33,030 --> 01:41:30,719
crowd because you will most likely end

2316
01:41:34,870 --> 01:41:33,040
up breaking your neck on a speaker in

2317
01:41:37,750 --> 01:41:34,880
front of you in the ditch you know

2318
01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:37,760
between the audience and the stage right

2319
01:41:41,030 --> 01:41:38,880
so

2320
01:41:43,270 --> 01:41:41,040
when you play clubs for let's say

2321
01:41:45,270 --> 01:41:43,280
anything from 500 to

2322
01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:45,280
2000 people or something like that you

2323
01:41:50,390 --> 01:41:47,840
you can feel them you can feel them

2324
01:41:51,270 --> 01:41:50,400
breathe you can feel the energy that

2325
01:41:53,189 --> 01:41:51,280
they

2326
01:41:55,669 --> 01:41:53,199
just

2327
01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:55,679
feeds you you know it's it's two

2328
01:42:00,629 --> 01:41:57,360
different things and also

2329
01:42:02,629 --> 01:42:00,639
you get sweaty it's warm it's you feel

2330
01:42:03,990 --> 01:42:02,639
that you're fighting you know you you

2331
01:42:06,629 --> 01:42:04,000
really

2332
01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:06,639
become an athlete so to speak you know

2333
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:07,840
just to

2334
01:42:13,830 --> 01:42:10,560
to stay alive kind of and and

2335
01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:13,840
and the adrenaline is insane what what

2336
01:42:18,709 --> 01:42:15,760
the the crowd is feeding you when you

2337
01:42:20,870 --> 01:42:18,719
stand in front of 30 000 or 40 000

2338
01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:20,880
people or whatever

2339
01:42:25,350 --> 01:42:23,760
it just becomes a sea of sound it's

2340
01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:25,360
really hard to

2341
01:42:30,629 --> 01:42:28,960
to get direct contact somehow so

2342
01:42:31,669 --> 01:42:30,639
i prefer to do

2343
01:42:32,550 --> 01:42:31,679
sweaty

2344
01:42:34,470 --> 01:42:32,560
uh

2345
01:42:36,390 --> 01:42:34,480
tight places you know because then you

2346
01:42:37,430 --> 01:42:36,400
know you're alive you're fighting for

2347
01:42:40,229 --> 01:42:37,440
your life

2348
01:42:42,790 --> 01:42:40,239
to breathe and and and to to

2349
01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:42,800
to stay focused really now this is a

2350
01:42:47,590 --> 01:42:45,280
this is a full tour this is a full tour

2351
01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:47,600
you've got uh dates uh all across the

2352
01:42:52,310 --> 01:42:49,440
united states you're going to canada too

2353
01:42:55,030 --> 01:42:52,320
as well yeah um what's it

2354
01:42:57,030 --> 01:42:55,040
the obvious question man uh we've had

2355
01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:57,040
two years of lockdown

2356
01:43:03,030 --> 01:43:00,400
uh the music industry really suffered um

2357
01:43:06,229 --> 01:43:03,040
but tours are back and music is back are

2358
01:43:07,669 --> 01:43:06,239
you excited it must feel great to know

2359
01:43:09,669 --> 01:43:07,679
that you're about to

2360
01:43:12,629 --> 01:43:09,679
you know go across the united states and

2361
01:43:15,910 --> 01:43:12,639
go through canada and get your yayas out

2362
01:43:18,790 --> 01:43:15,920
yeah yeah yeah definitely i i mean

2363
01:43:21,350 --> 01:43:18,800
this is the only thing i know how to do

2364
01:43:23,430 --> 01:43:21,360
this is what i live for and

2365
01:43:25,109 --> 01:43:23,440
you know when they take it away from you

2366
01:43:26,709 --> 01:43:25,119
for two years it's

2367
01:43:29,350 --> 01:43:26,719
you uh

2368
01:43:31,430 --> 01:43:29,360
really go into darkness for sure and

2369
01:43:33,189 --> 01:43:31,440
it's not like really i'm just going oh

2370
01:43:35,270 --> 01:43:33,199
great i have two years now to sit and

2371
01:43:37,510 --> 01:43:35,280
write music forget it i

2372
01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:37,520
just didn't want to do anything

2373
01:43:41,350 --> 01:43:38,880
at all

2374
01:43:43,030 --> 01:43:41,360
it just did the opposite for me

2375
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:43,040
people say yeah but now you can be home

2376
01:43:46,229 --> 01:43:44,880
and write music and blah blah blah i

2377
01:43:48,070 --> 01:43:46,239
don't care

2378
01:43:50,149 --> 01:43:48,080
i don't feel like it

2379
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:50,159
now you have uh

2380
01:43:54,550 --> 01:43:52,560
you have a studio

2381
01:43:57,030 --> 01:43:54,560
with everything in it you got all the

2382
01:43:59,189 --> 01:43:57,040
toys i mean literally

2383
01:44:01,990 --> 01:43:59,199
all of the toys

2384
01:44:04,390 --> 01:44:02,000
is is that not motivation enough over

2385
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:04,400
the last two years to just go down and

2386
01:44:08,390 --> 01:44:06,080
and pick up a guitar or pick up some

2387
01:44:09,189 --> 01:44:08,400
drumsticks and throw some new heads on

2388
01:44:12,550 --> 01:44:09,199
and

2389
01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:12,560
your head just wasn't there at all

2390
01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:14,880
no it wasn't there uh i was not

2391
01:44:17,669 --> 01:44:16,000
motivated

2392
01:44:19,430 --> 01:44:17,679
for a second uh

2393
01:44:21,109 --> 01:44:19,440
it just felt like

2394
01:44:23,109 --> 01:44:21,119
what's the point you know you start to

2395
01:44:26,149 --> 01:44:23,119
feel pity for yourself and things like

2396
01:44:28,070 --> 01:44:26,159
that and i was just not in mood

2397
01:44:34,229 --> 01:44:28,080
actually

2398
01:44:35,830 --> 01:44:34,239
started to to wake up again and and i

2399
01:44:39,750 --> 01:44:35,840
felt like okay

2400
01:44:44,070 --> 01:44:41,750
you know bring some joy somewhere so i

2401
01:44:46,229 --> 01:44:44,080
wrote party in my head with pain

2402
01:44:47,510 --> 01:44:46,239
just like a one hit thing

2403
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:47,520
and uh

2404
01:44:51,109 --> 01:44:49,360
just to motivate people to smile a

2405
01:44:52,629 --> 01:44:51,119
little bit you know it's kind of funny

2406
01:44:54,629 --> 01:44:52,639
movie i don't i don't know if you've

2407
01:44:55,669 --> 01:44:54,639
seen the video i have seen it and it's

2408
01:44:59,350 --> 01:44:55,679
great

2409
01:45:01,590 --> 01:44:59,360
little lebowski feeling into it and

2410
01:45:03,910 --> 01:45:01,600
and stuff you know and just to to get a

2411
01:45:05,669 --> 01:45:03,920
smile on people's face a little bit and

2412
01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:05,679
the song is about being locked up at

2413
01:45:08,950 --> 01:45:07,360
home and you you have a party and you

2414
01:45:09,910 --> 01:45:08,960
have a niche you know you want to go out

2415
01:45:13,669 --> 01:45:09,920
and

2416
01:45:15,990 --> 01:45:13,679
do what you normally do you know

2417
01:45:18,390 --> 01:45:16,000
into bars and get thrown out or whatever

2418
01:45:20,550 --> 01:45:18,400
you know things like that and

2419
01:45:22,709 --> 01:45:20,560
but you can't because you're locked up

2420
01:45:24,790 --> 01:45:22,719
at home and that was when you know it

2421
01:45:26,629 --> 01:45:24,800
was the worst you know when everything

2422
01:45:29,350 --> 01:45:26,639
was locked up everywhere and everything

2423
01:45:30,550 --> 01:45:29,360
so i i needed to

2424
01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:30,560
i think

2425
01:45:35,830 --> 01:45:33,280
partly for myself to to just ventilate

2426
01:45:36,870 --> 01:45:35,840
and also to like i said bring some joy

2427
01:45:40,470 --> 01:45:36,880
to people

2428
01:45:42,070 --> 01:45:40,480
now the uh the concepts

2429
01:45:43,590 --> 01:45:42,080
i i want to

2430
01:45:46,550 --> 01:45:43,600
get inside your head a little bit on

2431
01:45:48,070 --> 01:45:46,560
this the concepts of

2432
01:45:52,149 --> 01:45:48,080
videos

2433
01:45:56,070 --> 01:45:52,159
yep that's a whole nother thing

2434
01:45:58,709 --> 01:45:56,080
and you have always and everything that

2435
01:46:00,310 --> 01:45:58,719
you have ever done every video

2436
01:46:02,870 --> 01:46:00,320
um you've gone through the labor of

2437
01:46:05,510 --> 01:46:02,880
writing the songs producing performing

2438
01:46:07,990 --> 01:46:05,520
on it singing out right you've got

2439
01:46:09,590 --> 01:46:08,000
you've got to deal with all of that from

2440
01:46:13,109 --> 01:46:09,600
beginning to end

2441
01:46:15,510 --> 01:46:13,119
and then there is the video

2442
01:46:18,149 --> 01:46:15,520
which is a whole and

2443
01:46:21,669 --> 01:46:18,159
the the concepts

2444
01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:21,679
and the care that goes into every video

2445
01:46:23,910 --> 01:46:23,040
that you've ever done and it doesn't

2446
01:46:26,870 --> 01:46:23,920
matter

2447
01:46:27,910 --> 01:46:26,880
um is is extraordinary is that coming

2448
01:46:30,709 --> 01:46:27,920
from you

2449
01:46:33,590 --> 01:46:30,719
or is it a director that you're hiring

2450
01:46:35,109 --> 01:46:33,600
and you give them free reign

2451
01:46:37,590 --> 01:46:35,119
uh

2452
01:46:38,629 --> 01:46:37,600
i think in the in the past i just went

2453
01:46:40,229 --> 01:46:38,639
okay

2454
01:46:41,510 --> 01:46:40,239
do something good with this and they're

2455
01:46:43,910 --> 01:46:41,520
like what's the song about it doesn't

2456
01:46:45,830 --> 01:46:43,920
matter just make a good video

2457
01:46:47,750 --> 01:46:45,840
you know and

2458
01:46:50,950 --> 01:46:47,760
the later on

2459
01:46:52,229 --> 01:46:50,960
in the last 10 years i i really started

2460
01:46:55,109 --> 01:46:52,239
to care

2461
01:46:57,350 --> 01:46:55,119
and actually i was involved in

2462
01:46:58,390 --> 01:46:57,360
i i wrote the uh

2463
01:47:02,470 --> 01:46:58,400
uh

2464
01:47:05,830 --> 01:47:02,480
when we were up in space yeah with

2465
01:47:07,669 --> 01:47:05,840
lindaman uh i i wrote that um

2466
01:47:09,030 --> 01:47:07,679
script from the beginning

2467
01:47:11,109 --> 01:47:09,040
on a plane

2468
01:47:13,510 --> 01:47:11,119
going home from from uh

2469
01:47:16,709 --> 01:47:13,520
doing another video with lindemann the

2470
01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:16,719
stay off where peter also was in there

2471
01:47:20,390 --> 01:47:17,920
and

2472
01:47:22,950 --> 01:47:20,400
i just had this idea that we're going up

2473
01:47:23,910 --> 01:47:22,960
to space and i wanted actually tilt to

2474
01:47:25,510 --> 01:47:23,920
be

2475
01:47:29,030 --> 01:47:25,520
my wife

2476
01:47:32,229 --> 01:47:29,040
it it was supposed to be very weird but

2477
01:47:34,550 --> 01:47:32,239
uh i can see that i can see that

2478
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:34,560
yeah but he didn't want to play play a

2479
01:47:39,669 --> 01:47:37,199
woman so i could see that we kind of in

2480
01:47:41,669 --> 01:47:39,679
the end he jumped in a little bit and

2481
01:47:42,870 --> 01:47:41,679
and changed the script with me but

2482
01:47:45,750 --> 01:47:42,880
overall

2483
01:47:48,830 --> 01:47:45,760
that's the video that i was

2484
01:47:52,950 --> 01:47:48,840
you know script writer and uh

2485
01:47:55,189 --> 01:47:52,960
co-director i was on every uh

2486
01:47:57,830 --> 01:47:55,199
every shot shoot

2487
01:48:01,109 --> 01:47:57,840
every shoot i was really into it and it

2488
01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:01,119
gave me a bloody tooth to to

2489
01:48:06,390 --> 01:48:03,360
to get into it i mean all the lindemann

2490
01:48:07,430 --> 01:48:06,400
videos was always extreme in one way or

2491
01:48:10,149 --> 01:48:07,440
another

2492
01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:10,159
and uh that also taught me to to uh

2493
01:48:12,470 --> 01:48:11,440
really

2494
01:48:14,390 --> 01:48:12,480
uh

2495
01:48:16,950 --> 01:48:14,400
be picky when it comes to videos after

2496
01:48:18,790 --> 01:48:16,960
that as well well so

2497
01:48:22,149 --> 01:48:18,800
they're so cinematic

2498
01:48:23,350 --> 01:48:22,159
right i mean and the visualization

2499
01:48:25,750 --> 01:48:23,360
uh

2500
01:48:27,510 --> 01:48:25,760
the songs like you said right you have

2501
01:48:29,990 --> 01:48:27,520
beauty and shock right you have the

2502
01:48:31,109 --> 01:48:30,000
combination of both well the videos do

2503
01:48:33,990 --> 01:48:31,119
that too

2504
01:48:35,910 --> 01:48:34,000
where they are artistically you look and

2505
01:48:38,629 --> 01:48:35,920
you go oh that's about as good as it can

2506
01:48:41,030 --> 01:48:38,639
possibly get and then there's a scene

2507
01:48:43,189 --> 01:48:41,040
where you go oh whoa whoa

2508
01:48:44,149 --> 01:48:43,199
whoa hold it right

2509
01:48:48,070 --> 01:48:44,159
yeah

2510
01:48:50,470 --> 01:48:48,080
i mean sauron uh the director who did uh

2511
01:48:52,070 --> 01:48:50,480
most of the videos uh

2512
01:48:54,070 --> 01:48:52,080
not the one that that i'm talking about

2513
01:48:56,629 --> 01:48:54,080
i can't even remember what what the hell

2514
01:48:59,669 --> 01:48:56,639
it was called

2515
01:49:02,229 --> 01:48:59,679
uh anyhow uh soren he

2516
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:02,239
has a freakish mind you know and

2517
01:49:06,950 --> 01:49:04,480
it's easier to trigger him to go crazier

2518
01:49:07,910 --> 01:49:06,960
and crazier and crazier and and me until

2519
01:49:10,229 --> 01:49:07,920
we were

2520
01:49:12,149 --> 01:49:10,239
we had no boundaries and we both are

2521
01:49:15,109 --> 01:49:12,159
kind of uh

2522
01:49:16,229 --> 01:49:15,119
damaged goods when it comes to things

2523
01:49:18,550 --> 01:49:16,239
you know so

2524
01:49:20,950 --> 01:49:18,560
we were just going

2525
01:49:23,990 --> 01:49:20,960
more extreme more extreme until a point

2526
01:49:25,990 --> 01:49:24,000
when when i think it went

2527
01:49:28,629 --> 01:49:26,000
maybe too far i don't know

2528
01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:28,639
and um but you know we were pushing the

2529
01:49:34,310 --> 01:49:31,360
envelope to see how far we could go now

2530
01:49:35,910 --> 01:49:34,320
let me ask you you personally i'm just

2531
01:49:37,510 --> 01:49:35,920
talking about peter

2532
01:49:40,470 --> 01:49:37,520
yeah you

2533
01:49:42,629 --> 01:49:40,480
you now um you know you're stepping

2534
01:49:44,950 --> 01:49:42,639
across the line about your own image

2535
01:49:46,629 --> 01:49:44,960
about what you're doing and and how you

2536
01:49:48,950 --> 01:49:46,639
are presenting yourself in this video

2537
01:49:51,669 --> 01:49:48,960
you know you're crossing the line

2538
01:49:55,270 --> 01:49:51,679
but you don't care it's also art

2539
01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:55,280
right did you ever feel like maybe i am

2540
01:50:00,149 --> 01:49:57,440
taking this a bit too far

2541
01:50:01,510 --> 01:50:00,159
or is it just art and and before you

2542
01:50:04,870 --> 01:50:01,520
answer that

2543
01:50:06,790 --> 01:50:04,880
every time that there has been some kind

2544
01:50:10,229 --> 01:50:06,800
of shocking moment

2545
01:50:13,750 --> 01:50:10,239
you guys actually pull it back and it it

2546
01:50:15,109 --> 01:50:13,760
the video ends okay right it doesn't

2547
01:50:17,750 --> 01:50:15,119
it does it yeah

2548
01:50:20,709 --> 01:50:17,760
i i can tell you i had i had to pay a

2549
01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:20,719
lot in in in my village

2550
01:50:26,709 --> 01:50:23,040
put it that way uh when we did the first

2551
01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:26,719
video with when we were pigs yes and the

2552
01:50:31,669 --> 01:50:28,000
director

2553
01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:32,950
uh

2554
01:50:38,629 --> 01:50:35,840
junas oculus if you know that guy

2555
01:50:40,790 --> 01:50:38,639
he did madonna he did tragedy and a lot

2556
01:50:44,470 --> 01:50:40,800
of things he's very

2557
01:50:47,109 --> 01:50:44,480
high class but somehow he backed out and

2558
01:50:48,550 --> 01:50:47,119
so we got sauron

2559
01:50:51,910 --> 01:50:48,560
who did

2560
01:50:53,910 --> 01:50:51,920
mind tile with ramstein that video and

2561
01:50:56,229 --> 01:50:53,920
the first thing he said to us you guys

2562
01:50:59,030 --> 01:50:56,239
are pigs and we're like what

2563
01:51:00,149 --> 01:50:59,040
and yeah if you look at praise abort

2564
01:51:01,830 --> 01:51:00,159
that video

2565
01:51:04,470 --> 01:51:01,840
we are pigs

2566
01:51:06,550 --> 01:51:04,480
and yeah like i said when i went to the

2567
01:51:09,109 --> 01:51:06,560
grocery store you know people were

2568
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:09,119
chasing me around how could you do this

2569
01:51:12,790 --> 01:51:10,800
i'm like what

2570
01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:12,800
what what kind of video is this how can

2571
01:51:16,310 --> 01:51:14,880
you do this i'm like i don't know it's

2572
01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:16,320
art

2573
01:51:19,990 --> 01:51:17,760
so yeah

2574
01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:20,000
we we heard a lot of things after that

2575
01:51:24,229 --> 01:51:22,480
you know and then you know you feel like

2576
01:51:26,470 --> 01:51:24,239
okay let's take it another step and

2577
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:26,480
another step and another step and

2578
01:51:31,510 --> 01:51:28,960
you know provoke a little bit

2579
01:51:35,189 --> 01:51:31,520
there's a lot of provoking there uh for

2580
01:51:36,870 --> 01:51:35,199
sure i mean even for me i i was like

2581
01:51:40,070 --> 01:51:36,880
whoa but

2582
01:51:42,149 --> 01:51:40,080
uh in the end it's okay it's it's that

2583
01:51:43,350 --> 01:51:42,159
that rollercoaster ride that you take

2584
01:51:45,910 --> 01:51:43,360
visually

2585
01:51:47,750 --> 01:51:45,920
uh through this but i am sure even rob

2586
01:51:49,750 --> 01:51:47,760
zombie would have went well okay that's

2587
01:51:52,709 --> 01:51:49,760
a bit much

2588
01:51:55,510 --> 01:51:52,719
yeah i guess

2589
01:51:57,270 --> 01:51:55,520
you know it was you know it was fun when

2590
01:51:58,870 --> 01:51:57,280
we did it because we had

2591
01:52:00,550 --> 01:51:58,880
you know we had a chemistry like we

2592
01:52:02,550 --> 01:52:00,560
could just look at each other and that

2593
01:52:04,950 --> 01:52:02,560
influenced me to to write something and

2594
01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:04,960
then it influenced him to write

2595
01:52:09,910 --> 01:52:06,880
lyrics to it you know and

2596
01:52:12,310 --> 01:52:09,920
it was a crazy time yeah yeah it was all

2597
01:52:14,709 --> 01:52:12,320
it was all fun stuff for sure

2598
01:52:18,149 --> 01:52:14,719
now now back to

2599
01:52:20,070 --> 01:52:18,159
the tour what do you do

2600
01:52:21,030 --> 01:52:20,080
to prepare for this

2601
01:52:22,470 --> 01:52:21,040
there

2602
01:52:23,910 --> 01:52:22,480
it's not

2603
01:52:26,790 --> 01:52:23,920
uh

2604
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:26,800
hypocrisy is technical

2605
01:52:33,189 --> 01:52:30,480
simple technical you've got a lot of

2606
01:52:35,030 --> 01:52:33,199
things that you have to prepare for

2607
01:52:37,430 --> 01:52:35,040
um as a band

2608
01:52:38,709 --> 01:52:37,440
i mean it's it's got to be first off

2609
01:52:40,390 --> 01:52:38,719
it's got to be like the record you've

2610
01:52:41,750 --> 01:52:40,400
got your fans out there so you've got

2611
01:52:44,070 --> 01:52:41,760
that part of it

2612
01:52:45,910 --> 01:52:44,080
um and you you certainly have rehearsals

2613
01:52:47,750 --> 01:52:45,920
but there's the technical side in the

2614
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:47,760
stage show how do you how do you get all

2615
01:52:51,510 --> 01:52:49,679
of that done and are you guys going to

2616
01:52:53,589 --> 01:52:51,520
be ready

2617
01:52:56,390 --> 01:52:53,599
um

2618
01:52:59,750 --> 01:52:56,400
you will never be ready uh but

2619
01:53:01,669 --> 01:52:59,760
as good as it gets i i hope uh

2620
01:53:02,790 --> 01:53:01,679
technical part you know you have to

2621
01:53:04,550 --> 01:53:02,800
figure out

2622
01:53:06,070 --> 01:53:04,560
the sound

2623
01:53:07,750 --> 01:53:06,080
you know because you want people to have

2624
01:53:10,629 --> 01:53:07,760
a good sound

2625
01:53:13,270 --> 01:53:10,639
i mean us in the band we can't really

2626
01:53:16,470 --> 01:53:13,280
um control over what's coming out of the

2627
01:53:18,629 --> 01:53:16,480
pa we hope we get a good sound guy that

2628
01:53:20,709 --> 01:53:18,639
that can deliver what we

2629
01:53:21,750 --> 01:53:20,719
want to deliver to to the audience of

2630
01:53:22,790 --> 01:53:21,760
course

2631
01:53:23,990 --> 01:53:22,800
and

2632
01:53:28,149 --> 01:53:24,000
lights

2633
01:53:34,390 --> 01:53:30,950
that's like secondary right now for me

2634
01:53:36,070 --> 01:53:34,400
the the first thing is for me to to uh

2635
01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:36,080
remember all these songs you know

2636
01:53:39,189 --> 01:53:38,080
because there's so many melodies in all

2637
01:53:40,709 --> 01:53:39,199
these songs

2638
01:53:42,390 --> 01:53:40,719
different melodies and different ways

2639
01:53:44,709 --> 01:53:42,400
how to play them and

2640
01:53:47,109 --> 01:53:44,719
it's not super fast melody so if you

2641
01:53:49,830 --> 01:53:47,119
have plenty of time in between the the

2642
01:53:51,669 --> 01:53:49,840
tones to screw up and when you screw up

2643
01:53:54,390 --> 01:53:51,679
it's gonna hurt a lot

2644
01:53:56,390 --> 01:53:54,400
you know it's gonna be this harmonic and

2645
01:53:59,189 --> 01:53:56,400
so slow

2646
01:54:01,270 --> 01:53:59,199
melodies are worse to play because if

2647
01:54:03,669 --> 01:54:01,280
you screw up a little bit on these slow

2648
01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:03,679
melodies it's going to be awful

2649
01:54:08,470 --> 01:54:06,880
that was so you you you kind of on your

2650
01:54:10,790 --> 01:54:08,480
toes all the time until you feel

2651
01:54:11,910 --> 01:54:10,800
comfortable and when you get the

2652
01:54:14,550 --> 01:54:11,920
um

2653
01:54:18,310 --> 01:54:14,560
the muscle memory in your body then it

2654
01:54:20,870 --> 01:54:18,320
just goes like a train now uh

2655
01:54:23,669 --> 01:54:20,880
how do you what's your touring rig do

2656
01:54:24,629 --> 01:54:23,679
you bring 15 marshals and and 20 stacks

2657
01:54:25,669 --> 01:54:24,639
with you

2658
01:54:27,350 --> 01:54:25,679
or

2659
01:54:29,030 --> 01:54:27,360
knowing the monster in this time you

2660
01:54:30,870 --> 01:54:29,040
know

2661
01:54:32,229 --> 01:54:30,880
no actually not

2662
01:54:34,310 --> 01:54:32,239
we're

2663
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:34,320
you know since

2664
01:54:38,229 --> 01:54:36,800
not been a a major band that can choose

2665
01:54:39,910 --> 01:54:38,239
and do whatever you want you know

2666
01:54:43,510 --> 01:54:39,920
because money is

2667
01:54:45,109 --> 01:54:43,520
infinite you always had to uh

2668
01:54:47,990 --> 01:54:45,119
to make sure

2669
01:54:50,709 --> 01:54:48,000
uh with overweight and things like that

2670
01:54:53,030 --> 01:54:50,719
and the budgets here and there so we've

2671
01:54:54,870 --> 01:54:53,040
done a lot of smart things

2672
01:54:56,870 --> 01:54:54,880
that you can

2673
01:54:59,270 --> 01:54:56,880
fly in the rig the only thing you need

2674
01:55:01,109 --> 01:54:59,280
is drums and then you can do anything

2675
01:55:02,709 --> 01:55:01,119
you want so

2676
01:55:04,470 --> 01:55:02,719
uh

2677
01:55:06,870 --> 01:55:04,480
you know learning by doing for many

2678
01:55:11,910 --> 01:55:08,870
and yeah the sound is going to be great

2679
01:55:13,669 --> 01:55:11,920
i promise you but i i'm asking you as a

2680
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:13,679
guitar player uh

2681
01:55:17,270 --> 01:55:15,920
what you what's your what's your rig

2682
01:55:19,030 --> 01:55:17,280
what are you going to take with you if

2683
01:55:20,629 --> 01:55:19,040
it's not going to be 20 marshall stacks

2684
01:55:23,910 --> 01:55:20,639
what do you run through

2685
01:55:26,870 --> 01:55:23,920
um i actually gonna use a camper where i

2686
01:55:28,149 --> 01:55:26,880
made my own sound uh via

2687
01:55:29,750 --> 01:55:28,159
marshall

2688
01:55:32,229 --> 01:55:29,760
800

2689
01:55:33,669 --> 01:55:32,239
what is it 2205.

2690
01:55:37,030 --> 01:55:33,679
and uh

2691
01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:37,040
simulated it and live

2692
01:55:53,109 --> 01:55:38,159
i

2693
01:55:55,589 --> 01:55:53,119
us

2694
01:55:57,189 --> 01:55:55,599
and it was

2695
01:55:59,109 --> 01:55:57,199
a nightmare because

2696
01:56:00,790 --> 01:55:59,119
you know you get this humming stuff you

2697
01:56:02,149 --> 01:56:00,800
know when you connect two heads together

2698
01:56:03,750 --> 01:56:02,159
at the same time

2699
01:56:06,470 --> 01:56:03,760
you know the ground humming and things

2700
01:56:07,830 --> 01:56:06,480
like it sounded like a

2701
01:56:09,430 --> 01:56:07,840
nuclear uh

2702
01:56:13,589 --> 01:56:09,440
facility

2703
01:56:21,510 --> 01:56:15,030
you know

2704
01:56:24,149 --> 01:56:21,520
a lovely site on stage i grew up in the

2705
01:56:26,070 --> 01:56:24,159
70s you know marshall stacks wherever i

2706
01:56:27,910 --> 01:56:26,080
could meet you know that's

2707
01:56:30,149 --> 01:56:27,920
the most beautiful thing to see on the

2708
01:56:32,149 --> 01:56:30,159
stage but you know time changed and you

2709
01:56:34,390 --> 01:56:32,159
know now you try to do with side drops

2710
01:56:36,149 --> 01:56:34,400
backdrops and and lights and stuff like

2711
01:56:39,270 --> 01:56:36,159
that to get more

2712
01:56:40,229 --> 01:56:39,280
3d feeling into it sure sure

2713
01:56:44,229 --> 01:56:40,239
um

2714
01:56:45,030 --> 01:56:44,239
the uh the dates uh you're gonna be in

2715
01:56:51,669 --> 01:56:45,040
uh

2716
01:56:54,070 --> 01:56:51,679
you know it's this is like four weeks

2717
01:56:56,070 --> 01:56:54,080
away uh you're gonna be out here do you

2718
01:56:56,950 --> 01:56:56,080
have a preference before we get to the

2719
01:56:59,510 --> 01:56:56,960
break

2720
01:57:01,030 --> 01:56:59,520
uh what's the difference between east

2721
01:57:02,709 --> 01:57:01,040
coast and west coast because you're

2722
01:57:04,629 --> 01:57:02,719
starting out in brooklyn

2723
01:57:05,750 --> 01:57:04,639
right that's a it's a different crowd

2724
01:57:07,669 --> 01:57:05,760
then you come

2725
01:57:10,149 --> 01:57:07,679
uh to los angeles and you're also

2726
01:57:11,750 --> 01:57:10,159
playing canada is there is is there a

2727
01:57:13,990 --> 01:57:11,760
difference between east coast and west

2728
01:57:15,189 --> 01:57:14,000
coast

2729
01:57:17,510 --> 01:57:15,199
to be honest

2730
01:57:19,830 --> 01:57:17,520
not really because i think when you were

2731
01:57:22,310 --> 01:57:19,840
there uh in l.a it was pretty rowdy

2732
01:57:23,270 --> 01:57:22,320
crowd right that was an insanely rowdy

2733
01:57:24,390 --> 01:57:23,280
crowd

2734
01:57:26,149 --> 01:57:24,400
yeah and

2735
01:57:29,030 --> 01:57:26,159
you know people say they're more softer

2736
01:57:30,950 --> 01:57:29,040
on the west side than the east coast but

2737
01:57:34,149 --> 01:57:30,960
i don't know i think it's getting really

2738
01:57:35,669 --> 01:57:34,159
mixed together now i i really when i

2739
01:57:37,990 --> 01:57:35,679
think about it

2740
01:57:40,550 --> 01:57:38,000
i don't think there is a difference to

2741
01:57:42,709 --> 01:57:40,560
be honest i think they're just as loud

2742
01:57:44,310 --> 01:57:42,719
anywhere in america

2743
01:57:47,669 --> 01:57:44,320
the uh

2744
01:57:49,350 --> 01:57:47,679
the tour itself with um

2745
01:57:53,189 --> 01:57:49,360
do you feel that

2746
01:57:55,510 --> 01:57:53,199
uh because of the pandemic that

2747
01:57:57,510 --> 01:57:55,520
you may not see this goes across the

2748
01:57:59,669 --> 01:57:57,520
board this is theaters and restaurants

2749
01:58:02,149 --> 01:57:59,679
and music venues and sports

2750
01:58:04,229 --> 01:58:02,159
uh do you think that people are anxious

2751
01:58:06,790 --> 01:58:04,239
to get out of the houses or do you think

2752
01:58:10,629 --> 01:58:06,800
that there may be some uh

2753
01:58:13,350 --> 01:58:10,639
some some still maybe hesitant

2754
01:58:15,589 --> 01:58:13,360
that's a good question i i don't know i

2755
01:58:17,270 --> 01:58:15,599
i can only speak for myself

2756
01:58:19,030 --> 01:58:17,280
and

2757
01:58:22,470 --> 01:58:19,040
i'll take the chance i mean if you're

2758
01:58:23,669 --> 01:58:22,480
vaccinated and you feel safe and

2759
01:58:24,790 --> 01:58:23,679
just go

2760
01:58:25,990 --> 01:58:24,800
you know

2761
01:58:28,709 --> 01:58:26,000
what what

2762
01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:28,719
happen

2763
01:58:33,030 --> 01:58:30,560
except you get the sniffles

2764
01:58:35,430 --> 01:58:33,040
you know i had coveted and and still

2765
01:58:37,430 --> 01:58:35,440
vaccinated it doesn't really matter

2766
01:58:39,589 --> 01:58:37,440
you know let's not get into the

2767
01:58:40,870 --> 01:58:39,599
that kind of stuff but i'm just saying

2768
01:58:43,589 --> 01:58:40,880
uh

2769
01:58:46,149 --> 01:58:43,599
yeah if you feel safe and you feel

2770
01:58:47,270 --> 01:58:46,159
you're vaccinated and everything why not

2771
01:58:49,510 --> 01:58:47,280
go

2772
01:58:51,910 --> 01:58:49,520
i mean i don't care if you vaccinate or

2773
01:58:52,870 --> 01:58:51,920
not for me it's up to you yourself you

2774
01:58:55,189 --> 01:58:52,880
know but

2775
01:58:56,870 --> 01:58:55,199
you know for safety for yourself for

2776
01:59:00,310 --> 01:58:56,880
your self-confidence

2777
01:59:02,870 --> 01:59:00,320
i don't see a reason why not go out now

2778
01:59:05,270 --> 01:59:02,880
uh before the break uh

2779
01:59:06,709 --> 01:59:05,280
uh you know i have to mention uh you

2780
01:59:08,950 --> 01:59:06,719
know a

2781
01:59:11,510 --> 01:59:08,960
fellow drummer and friend

2782
01:59:12,790 --> 01:59:11,520
uh taylor hawkins uh left this earth

2783
01:59:15,510 --> 01:59:12,800
last week

2784
01:59:17,750 --> 01:59:15,520
uh pretty shocking news uh how did you

2785
01:59:21,270 --> 01:59:17,760
take that

2786
01:59:23,589 --> 01:59:21,280
uh that was very unexpected i was

2787
01:59:25,750 --> 01:59:23,599
also very shocked i i couldn't believe

2788
01:59:29,109 --> 01:59:25,760
it i first of all you want to know how

2789
01:59:31,350 --> 01:59:29,119
and why you know why did this happen

2790
01:59:33,430 --> 01:59:31,360
and uh

2791
01:59:35,189 --> 01:59:33,440
yeah it's

2792
01:59:37,189 --> 01:59:35,199
that that was really shocking did you

2793
01:59:38,550 --> 01:59:37,199
ever get a chance very talented man yeah

2794
01:59:39,430 --> 01:59:38,560
did you ever get a chance to hang out

2795
01:59:41,990 --> 01:59:39,440
with him

2796
01:59:45,270 --> 01:59:42,000
no no i didn't unfortunately yeah i

2797
01:59:48,950 --> 01:59:45,280
didn't yeah just a very funny guy very

2798
01:59:49,990 --> 01:59:48,960
very cool and the the thing uh about

2799
01:59:51,830 --> 01:59:50,000
taylor

2800
01:59:53,669 --> 01:59:51,840
i mean i didn't know him very well you

2801
01:59:55,030 --> 01:59:53,679
know we were friends and acquaintances

2802
01:59:56,870 --> 01:59:55,040
but uh

2803
01:59:59,430 --> 01:59:56,880
you know it's not like i hung out with

2804
02:00:02,070 --> 01:59:59,440
him every day but any time that he was

2805
02:00:03,030 --> 02:00:02,080
around me and like even with the fader

2806
02:00:05,109 --> 02:00:03,040
knots

2807
02:00:06,950 --> 02:00:05,119
um just just you know what just an

2808
02:00:09,350 --> 02:00:06,960
honest guy

2809
02:00:11,030 --> 02:00:09,360
right just like real

2810
02:00:15,030 --> 02:00:11,040
and it's just

2811
02:00:15,830 --> 02:00:15,040
just it just felt weird uh to have

2812
02:00:18,390 --> 02:00:15,840
uh

2813
02:00:21,350 --> 02:00:18,400
somebody that had such a positive

2814
02:00:23,990 --> 02:00:21,360
uh vibe about him that was projected

2815
02:00:26,709 --> 02:00:24,000
into the public i i really fee that that

2816
02:00:28,550 --> 02:00:26,719
guy that the public knew was was who

2817
02:00:30,070 --> 02:00:28,560
taylor was and that wasn't it wasn't

2818
02:00:31,910 --> 02:00:30,080
fake and and

2819
02:00:34,229 --> 02:00:31,920
and i think that that is one of the

2820
02:00:36,390 --> 02:00:34,239
reasons why we took this so hard

2821
02:00:39,109 --> 02:00:36,400
uh was because he was such a funny

2822
02:00:41,750 --> 02:00:39,119
honest and open open person

2823
02:00:44,390 --> 02:00:41,760
yeah and very talented as well

2824
02:00:46,149 --> 02:00:44,400
you see and seen him singing

2825
02:00:48,709 --> 02:00:46,159
queen songs and stuff like that you know

2826
02:00:49,910 --> 02:00:48,719
it was a huge queen fan i guess

2827
02:00:52,390 --> 02:00:49,920
and

2828
02:00:54,550 --> 02:00:52,400
yeah really talented let's take our

2829
02:00:57,030 --> 02:00:54,560
break right here when we come back we'll

2830
02:00:58,629 --> 02:00:57,040
get back to the ufos

2831
02:01:00,950 --> 02:00:58,639
that's right we're going to talk about

2832
02:01:02,070 --> 02:01:00,960
end of disclosure that that album was

2833
02:01:05,189 --> 02:01:02,080
released

2834
02:01:06,229 --> 02:01:05,199
in 2013 right it was almost 10 years ago

2835
02:01:09,030 --> 02:01:06,239
peter

2836
02:01:11,669 --> 02:01:09,040
damn yeah

2837
02:01:13,380 --> 02:01:11,679
my hair is just getting grayer and great

2838
02:01:16,229 --> 02:01:13,390
we'll be right back stay with us

2839
02:01:17,589 --> 02:01:16,239
[Music]

2840
02:01:23,460 --> 02:01:17,599
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2885
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2886
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egypt this october come join jimmy

2889
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2890
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2893
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2894
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2895
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2900
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2901
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reservations now please visit forbidden

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2905
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[Music]

2906
02:04:05,669 --> 02:04:01,189
this is jimmy church of fade to black

2907
02:04:08,390 --> 02:04:05,679
and this year june 18 2022

2908
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2909
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california right next to chinatown i'm

2914
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hosting the event again this year with

2915
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music performances by

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stages there's 16 stages in total over

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2920
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2921
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workshops with billy carson adam apollo

2922
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2923
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and david palmer and many many more it's

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2928
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2929
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[Applause]

2930
02:05:22,790 --> 02:05:20,069
you wanna know a secret i love ponies i

2931
02:05:24,629 --> 02:05:22,800
really love ponies i'm serious

2932
02:05:26,390 --> 02:05:24,639
i couldn't stay sane without pawn

2933
02:05:28,470 --> 02:05:26,400
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2934
02:05:34,870 --> 02:05:28,480
why fade to black

2935
02:05:43,460 --> 02:05:37,109
this is fade to black with jimmy church

2936
02:05:55,669 --> 02:05:53,910
[Music]

2937
02:05:57,430 --> 02:05:55,679
welcome back fade to black i am your

2938
02:06:01,109 --> 02:05:57,440
host jimmy church tonight peter tacron

2939
02:06:04,149 --> 02:06:01,119
joins us live from sweden

2940
02:06:06,470 --> 02:06:04,159
tomorrow night flat earth dave is here

2941
02:06:07,430 --> 02:06:06,480
we're going to be discussing is flat

2942
02:06:09,510 --> 02:06:07,440
earth

2943
02:06:11,910 --> 02:06:09,520
still a thing wednesday night we are

2944
02:06:13,510 --> 02:06:11,920
joined for the first time with don ecker

2945
02:06:15,589 --> 02:06:13,520
not going to want to miss that too big

2946
02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:15,599
week here on the show tonight it's peter

2947
02:06:19,669 --> 02:06:17,760
tackern and uh

2948
02:06:22,149 --> 02:06:19,679
peter um

2949
02:06:25,109 --> 02:06:22,159
uh end of disclosure

2950
02:06:27,750 --> 02:06:25,119
yeah released in 2013.

2951
02:06:29,350 --> 02:06:27,760
it's 2022.

2952
02:06:31,030 --> 02:06:29,360
you have been this

2953
02:06:32,310 --> 02:06:31,040
you have been concerned about this

2954
02:06:34,310 --> 02:06:32,320
subject

2955
02:06:35,830 --> 02:06:34,320
for what seems like forever are you

2956
02:06:38,069 --> 02:06:35,840
surprised

2957
02:06:40,390 --> 02:06:38,079
uh to see where we are today when it

2958
02:06:43,430 --> 02:06:40,400
comes to uh

2959
02:06:45,589 --> 02:06:43,440
et and contact and disclosure and and

2960
02:06:49,510 --> 02:06:45,599
what is going on

2961
02:06:50,669 --> 02:06:49,520
you remember jimmy when uh uh

2962
02:06:53,510 --> 02:06:50,679
i think it was

2963
02:06:55,910 --> 02:06:53,520
2017 december 16

2964
02:06:56,870 --> 02:06:55,920
you and i were talking about what came

2965
02:06:58,709 --> 02:06:56,880
out

2966
02:07:01,030 --> 02:06:58,719
because i was in la at that time that's

2967
02:07:03,109 --> 02:07:01,040
right and that was the first

2968
02:07:05,350 --> 02:07:03,119
i think it was the first time i uh i was

2969
02:07:07,910 --> 02:07:05,360
on on the show for like 10 minutes or

2970
02:07:09,990 --> 02:07:07,920
something and we were talking about this

2971
02:07:13,910 --> 02:07:10,000
and uh

2972
02:07:19,510 --> 02:07:16,550
i don't know i wasn't like wow

2973
02:07:22,870 --> 02:07:19,520
i was more like yeah but it's not really

2974
02:07:27,350 --> 02:07:22,880
anything because it came out 2004 you

2975
02:07:30,910 --> 02:07:27,360
know the tic tac thing and uh for me

2976
02:07:33,109 --> 02:07:30,920
i don't know i was hoping in

2977
02:07:34,629 --> 02:07:33,119
2013 that

2978
02:07:36,709 --> 02:07:34,639
it would have rolled a little bit more

2979
02:07:39,510 --> 02:07:36,719
of course

2980
02:07:42,390 --> 02:07:39,520
the the subject is more on everybody's

2981
02:07:45,030 --> 02:07:42,400
lips nowadays but still i don't see any

2982
02:07:49,990 --> 02:07:45,040
proof i don't see any really

2983
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:52,550
i don't know

2984
02:07:57,750 --> 02:07:56,149
it's hard to say but i still say

2985
02:08:00,550 --> 02:07:57,760
bs

2986
02:08:02,550 --> 02:08:00,560
because it's not happening you know

2987
02:08:04,790 --> 02:08:02,560
and i don't know

2988
02:08:07,270 --> 02:08:04,800
i mean i don't want to sound skeptical

2989
02:08:09,990 --> 02:08:07,280
but you know right now it looks very

2990
02:08:12,470 --> 02:08:10,000
dark that anything is going to happen

2991
02:08:14,470 --> 02:08:12,480
to be honest it's just

2992
02:08:15,350 --> 02:08:14,480
running around in circles

2993
02:08:17,189 --> 02:08:15,360
kind of

2994
02:08:19,830 --> 02:08:17,199
it's they feed they feed you a little

2995
02:08:21,589 --> 02:08:19,840
bit you know and then they

2996
02:08:23,669 --> 02:08:21,599
make you work for it for many years and

2997
02:08:26,550 --> 02:08:23,679
then they feed you a little bit more and

2998
02:08:27,510 --> 02:08:26,560
then make you work for it again

2999
02:08:31,350 --> 02:08:27,520
so

3000
02:08:33,830 --> 02:08:31,360
that's how i see it in in in sweden

3001
02:08:37,430 --> 02:08:33,840
um well you have the internet so you're

3002
02:08:39,109 --> 02:08:37,440
able to right check out fade to black or

3003
02:08:41,030 --> 02:08:39,119
anything else inside of the ufo

3004
02:08:45,189 --> 02:08:41,040
community you can do that

3005
02:08:47,109 --> 02:08:45,199
but what's the vibe in the swedish media

3006
02:08:48,950 --> 02:08:47,119
do they cover the subject like it is

3007
02:08:51,510 --> 02:08:48,960
being covered by the media in the united

3008
02:08:52,870 --> 02:08:51,520
states they did a little bit with the

3009
02:08:53,910 --> 02:08:52,880
tic tac

3010
02:08:56,709 --> 02:08:53,920
uh

3011
02:08:57,910 --> 02:08:56,719
when the

3012
02:09:05,350 --> 02:08:57,920
is

3013
02:09:07,990 --> 02:09:05,360
a year ago or whatever right uh

3014
02:09:10,709 --> 02:09:08,000
and and they do it also did it also when

3015
02:09:12,390 --> 02:09:10,719
the this um nasa guy was sitting and

3016
02:09:13,350 --> 02:09:12,400
talking i can't remember his name this

3017
02:09:15,270 --> 02:09:13,360
old man

3018
02:09:17,350 --> 02:09:15,280
a few months ago and he was talking

3019
02:09:19,750 --> 02:09:17,360
about you know that there's more to it

3020
02:09:21,830 --> 02:09:19,760
than what we know and things

3021
02:09:24,470 --> 02:09:21,840
you probably remember

3022
02:09:26,470 --> 02:09:24,480
i can't remember this guy's name um

3023
02:09:28,709 --> 02:09:26,480
you're talking about uh the uh the

3024
02:09:31,189 --> 02:09:28,719
administrator of nasa

3025
02:09:33,030 --> 02:09:31,199
yeah the old dude he looks like he's

3026
02:09:35,350 --> 02:09:33,040
almost falling apart

3027
02:09:37,430 --> 02:09:35,360
what's his name

3028
02:09:39,669 --> 02:09:37,440
it looks like he's been around the block

3029
02:09:41,350 --> 02:09:39,679
um i think are you talking about bill

3030
02:09:42,950 --> 02:09:41,360
nelson

3031
02:09:43,990 --> 02:09:42,960
could be okay

3032
02:09:45,510 --> 02:09:44,000
or something

3033
02:09:47,350 --> 02:09:45,520
in his 80s

3034
02:09:49,750 --> 02:09:47,360
oh

3035
02:09:52,470 --> 02:09:49,760
man okay no we're talking about somebody

3036
02:09:53,750 --> 02:09:52,480
else bill nelson the administrator of

3037
02:09:56,310 --> 02:09:53,760
nasa

3038
02:09:59,430 --> 02:09:56,320
uh three or four months ago

3039
02:10:02,069 --> 02:09:59,440
gave an interview uh with a university i

3040
02:10:04,069 --> 02:10:02,079
think it was a virginia

3041
02:10:06,470 --> 02:10:04,079
i could have uh the state wrong but he

3042
02:10:09,510 --> 02:10:06,480
did this it was an interview on politics

3043
02:10:11,830 --> 02:10:09,520
and nasa uh with uh the political

3044
02:10:13,589 --> 02:10:11,840
department at the university but the

3045
02:10:14,950 --> 02:10:13,599
last 10 minutes of the interview he went

3046
02:10:18,870 --> 02:10:14,960
straight there

3047
02:10:20,629 --> 02:10:18,880
about e.t and contact and and he was

3048
02:10:22,950 --> 02:10:20,639
convinced that

3049
02:10:24,390 --> 02:10:22,960
something is going on and that nasa is

3050
02:10:28,229 --> 02:10:24,400
on top of it

3051
02:10:31,109 --> 02:10:28,239
and it was it was it was whoa man it was

3052
02:10:32,550 --> 02:10:31,119
yeah i think it was him okay

3053
02:10:34,149 --> 02:10:32,560
i don't know a guy right yeah i don't

3054
02:10:37,109 --> 02:10:34,159
think he's in his 80s though i think

3055
02:10:39,990 --> 02:10:37,119
he's about 60 65.

3056
02:10:40,830 --> 02:10:40,000
all right well and i'm 58 so don't call

3057
02:10:44,149 --> 02:10:40,840
me

3058
02:10:45,830 --> 02:10:44,159
old hey i'm not too far

3059
02:10:48,629 --> 02:10:45,840
behind you know but

3060
02:10:50,550 --> 02:10:48,639
yeah but anyhow you know they cover

3061
02:10:52,470 --> 02:10:50,560
pretty much the same thing

3062
02:10:53,669 --> 02:10:52,480
for sure you know but but i live on the

3063
02:10:56,069 --> 02:10:53,679
net so

3064
02:10:59,589 --> 02:10:56,079
you know i'm in the community so when

3065
02:11:01,910 --> 02:10:59,599
someone burps i know it

3066
02:11:03,910 --> 02:11:01,920
the same with you same with everybody

3067
02:11:04,709 --> 02:11:03,920
here right right right right

3068
02:11:05,669 --> 02:11:04,719
um

3069
02:11:08,790 --> 02:11:05,679
and

3070
02:11:13,270 --> 02:11:08,800
the the word disclosure

3071
02:11:15,830 --> 02:11:13,280
um and if uh end of disclosure and and

3072
02:11:19,350 --> 02:11:15,840
that concept and the video

3073
02:11:22,470 --> 02:11:19,360
it's it's covering all things disclosure

3074
02:11:23,830 --> 02:11:22,480
right it's not necessarily uh just ufos

3075
02:11:29,350 --> 02:11:23,840
and

3076
02:11:31,750 --> 02:11:29,360
this was at the front of

3077
02:11:34,390 --> 02:11:31,760
uh the disclosure movement and you were

3078
02:11:36,830 --> 02:11:34,400
right there for you what does disclosure

3079
02:11:41,350 --> 02:11:39,270
uh for me it just

3080
02:11:43,189 --> 02:11:41,360
really means proof

3081
02:11:44,310 --> 02:11:43,199
you know

3082
02:11:47,350 --> 02:11:44,320
uh

3083
02:11:48,870 --> 02:11:47,360
it doesn't necessarily means that they

3084
02:11:51,109 --> 02:11:48,880
should land on

3085
02:11:53,350 --> 02:11:51,119
on on the lawn of the white house or

3086
02:11:54,870 --> 02:11:53,360
anything like that it's just

3087
02:11:58,940 --> 02:11:54,880
solid proof

3088
02:12:01,830 --> 02:12:00,870
[Music]

3089
02:12:03,990 --> 02:12:01,840
half

3090
02:12:07,109 --> 02:12:04,000
shitty

3091
02:12:09,270 --> 02:12:07,119
pictures or videos of something you know

3092
02:12:12,069 --> 02:12:09,280
it could be a bug on the

3093
02:12:15,270 --> 02:12:12,079
uh on a window or whatever or reflection

3094
02:12:16,229 --> 02:12:15,280
from a window to make it look like uh

3095
02:12:17,830 --> 02:12:16,239
something

3096
02:12:20,470 --> 02:12:17,840
so i mean

3097
02:12:23,350 --> 02:12:20,480
i just need solid proof that is my

3098
02:12:25,990 --> 02:12:23,360
disclosure i i would say

3099
02:12:28,790 --> 02:12:26,000
are you referring to a government

3100
02:12:32,550 --> 02:12:31,030
no i want to see something that that i

3101
02:12:34,790 --> 02:12:32,560
can

3102
02:12:36,870 --> 02:12:34,800
believe that it's real it doesn't matter

3103
02:12:38,629 --> 02:12:36,880
if it's a video or whatever i mean the

3104
02:12:42,470 --> 02:12:38,639
government

3105
02:12:45,109 --> 02:12:42,480
99

3106
02:12:46,550 --> 02:12:45,119
of the government has no clue at all

3107
02:12:48,950 --> 02:12:46,560
right uh

3108
02:12:51,430 --> 02:12:48,960
but we all know that already that is not

3109
02:12:53,910 --> 02:12:51,440
a new thing but i'm not really saying

3110
02:12:56,310 --> 02:12:53,920
that someone should come out you know

3111
02:12:58,390 --> 02:12:56,320
like lou is doing you know i i don't

3112
02:13:00,470 --> 02:12:58,400
know i have mixed feelings about that as

3113
02:13:04,069 --> 02:13:00,480
well i i don't know what's what's going

3114
02:13:06,550 --> 02:13:04,079
on to be honest uh

3115
02:13:08,629 --> 02:13:06,560
but something more than

3116
02:13:10,870 --> 02:13:08,639
just someone goes out and say like yeah

3117
02:13:13,430 --> 02:13:10,880
this is true this is that i want to see

3118
02:13:15,990 --> 02:13:13,440
some proof well okay so let's go back to

3119
02:13:16,790 --> 02:13:16,000
my question with you at the front of the

3120
02:13:19,589 --> 02:13:16,800
show

3121
02:13:21,510 --> 02:13:19,599
which is you step outside on your patio

3122
02:13:23,350 --> 02:13:21,520
boom it's right there

3123
02:13:25,750 --> 02:13:23,360
yeah is that

3124
02:13:27,270 --> 02:13:25,760
disclosure for you would that be

3125
02:13:29,589 --> 02:13:27,280
disclosure

3126
02:13:31,669 --> 02:13:29,599
but then i start going like hey wait a

3127
02:13:34,390 --> 02:13:31,679
minute

3128
02:13:36,950 --> 02:13:34,400
is that the navy or

3129
02:13:39,669 --> 02:13:36,960
is it a ufo well what is it i mean of

3130
02:13:41,189 --> 02:13:39,679
course ufo means like you know

3131
02:13:43,910 --> 02:13:41,199
unidentified

3132
02:13:46,069 --> 02:13:43,920
flying object but i'm just saying like

3133
02:13:48,149 --> 02:13:46,079
is it from earth or is it from somewhere

3134
02:13:49,830 --> 02:13:48,159
else so that's the next thing that's

3135
02:13:52,950 --> 02:13:49,840
going to come to my mind if i would see

3136
02:13:54,790 --> 02:13:52,960
something with my own eyes

3137
02:13:59,030 --> 02:13:54,800
it is is

3138
02:14:01,270 --> 02:13:59,040
there there's a there's a strange divide

3139
02:14:02,950 --> 02:14:01,280
i think not only inside of our community

3140
02:14:06,149 --> 02:14:02,960
but the rest of the world when it comes

3141
02:14:09,189 --> 02:14:06,159
to this peter and that is

3142
02:14:12,550 --> 02:14:09,199
i when i say i don't need disclosure

3143
02:14:15,270 --> 02:14:12,560
because i've seen what i've seen

3144
02:14:16,950 --> 02:14:15,280
that's offensive to a lot of people

3145
02:14:18,950 --> 02:14:16,960
where

3146
02:14:21,350 --> 02:14:18,960
in that

3147
02:14:23,109 --> 02:14:21,360
disclosure to most

3148
02:14:25,350 --> 02:14:23,119
is the president getting up and making

3149
02:14:27,589 --> 02:14:25,360
an announcement on live tv that that's

3150
02:14:31,350 --> 02:14:27,599
that's what they need

3151
02:14:33,109 --> 02:14:31,360
for closure of disclosure right

3152
02:14:35,589 --> 02:14:33,119
that's the only thing that's going to be

3153
02:14:38,069 --> 02:14:35,599
good enough

3154
02:14:40,709 --> 02:14:38,079
yeah but i mean that's maybe

3155
02:14:42,870 --> 02:14:40,719
people who are not in this community

3156
02:14:43,750 --> 02:14:42,880
it's not enough for us i think

3157
02:14:45,990 --> 02:14:43,760
you know

3158
02:14:47,750 --> 02:14:46,000
for a normal person who who doesn't

3159
02:14:49,510 --> 02:14:47,760
really follow this

3160
02:14:50,470 --> 02:14:49,520
maybe that would be a disclosure for

3161
02:14:57,350 --> 02:14:50,480
them

3162
02:15:02,550 --> 02:14:58,870
there's there's another part of the

3163
02:15:05,750 --> 02:15:02,560
conversation that that needs to

3164
02:15:08,790 --> 02:15:05,760
that needs to be had and that is the

3165
02:15:11,350 --> 02:15:08,800
direct contact the abduction phenomena

3166
02:15:13,189 --> 02:15:11,360
and those experiencers out there

3167
02:15:16,310 --> 02:15:13,199
that have been talking about these

3168
02:15:17,990 --> 02:15:16,320
things for a very long time and what is

3169
02:15:20,470 --> 02:15:18,000
going on right now with the government

3170
02:15:22,870 --> 02:15:20,480
is everything but that right and it's

3171
02:15:25,030 --> 02:15:22,880
got a military side of this

3172
02:15:27,109 --> 02:15:25,040
um how do we how do we approach the

3173
02:15:28,870 --> 02:15:27,119
abduction phenomenon moving forward

3174
02:15:30,709 --> 02:15:28,880
which is something that you have covered

3175
02:15:32,149 --> 02:15:30,719
and written about and

3176
02:15:34,229 --> 02:15:32,159
and so forth

3177
02:15:36,310 --> 02:15:34,239
yeah i did this song on the last album

3178
02:15:38,069 --> 02:15:36,320
bugging the net with the betty and

3179
02:15:38,950 --> 02:15:38,079
barney hill

3180
02:15:41,109 --> 02:15:38,960
because

3181
02:15:42,790 --> 02:15:41,119
i thought it was kind of fascinating

3182
02:15:44,870 --> 02:15:42,800
story you know

3183
02:15:46,790 --> 02:15:44,880
uh yeah

3184
02:15:49,830 --> 02:15:46,800
i mean

3185
02:15:51,109 --> 02:15:49,840
a lot of them is saying it's pure horror

3186
02:15:53,589 --> 02:15:51,119
you know

3187
02:15:54,709 --> 02:15:53,599
it's an experience that will never go

3188
02:15:56,950 --> 02:15:54,719
away

3189
02:15:59,270 --> 02:15:56,960
some other people are more fluky about

3190
02:16:03,030 --> 02:15:59,280
it i don't know what what what to think

3191
02:16:07,510 --> 02:16:04,870
how you are

3192
02:16:09,510 --> 02:16:07,520
mentally shaped how you take it you know

3193
02:16:11,750 --> 02:16:09,520
maybe some people can't be shocked you

3194
02:16:13,830 --> 02:16:11,760
know put it that way and they they see

3195
02:16:15,030 --> 02:16:13,840
things and they just go yeah yeah

3196
02:16:15,910 --> 02:16:15,040
whatever

3197
02:16:18,229 --> 02:16:15,920
or

3198
02:16:20,629 --> 02:16:18,239
you know other people are freaking out i

3199
02:16:25,109 --> 02:16:23,669
when you read about uh

3200
02:16:26,870 --> 02:16:25,119
abductees

3201
02:16:30,470 --> 02:16:26,880
you know how they

3202
02:16:33,110 --> 02:16:30,480
most of them are in in terror pure

3203
02:16:34,790 --> 02:16:33,120
freaking out and it's only a few a

3204
02:16:36,389 --> 02:16:34,800
handful that say

3205
02:16:39,190 --> 02:16:36,399
you know like yeah

3206
02:16:41,349 --> 02:16:39,200
i was it was great i didn't

3207
02:16:44,790 --> 02:16:41,359
excuse me it was great

3208
02:16:46,629 --> 02:16:44,800
i i enjoyed the experience i mean yeah

3209
02:16:48,389 --> 02:16:46,639
but that is

3210
02:16:50,389 --> 02:16:48,399
another thing that that's kind of

3211
02:16:51,429 --> 02:16:50,399
important as well you know what's going

3212
02:16:54,070 --> 02:16:51,439
on there

3213
02:16:55,509 --> 02:16:54,080
is a government who's who's abducting

3214
02:16:58,070 --> 02:16:55,519
you and

3215
02:17:00,230 --> 02:16:58,080
shooting you up with some

3216
02:17:02,549 --> 02:17:00,240
i don't know lsd kind of trip kind of

3217
02:17:05,270 --> 02:17:02,559
thing so you you lose your mind and you

3218
02:17:07,990 --> 02:17:05,280
think you're abducted by something

3219
02:17:09,830 --> 02:17:08,000
you know they feed you shrooms or you

3220
02:17:11,110 --> 02:17:09,840
know what i mean so

3221
02:17:13,429 --> 02:17:11,120
there's an

3222
02:17:15,910 --> 02:17:13,439
i always see things in in

3223
02:17:18,629 --> 02:17:15,920
in two ways in in

3224
02:17:22,790 --> 02:17:21,110
it could be true or it could be [\h__\h]

3225
02:17:25,509 --> 02:17:22,800
you know i always

3226
02:17:28,309 --> 02:17:25,519
put these things in all the stories i i

3227
02:17:30,870 --> 02:17:28,319
hear about anything when it comes to to

3228
02:17:32,469 --> 02:17:30,880
this subject i always have to divide

3229
02:17:34,150 --> 02:17:32,479
myself in

3230
02:17:36,469 --> 02:17:34,160
nah i don't believe in this and the

3231
02:17:38,469 --> 02:17:36,479
second one yeah i do believe in this and

3232
02:17:39,669 --> 02:17:38,479
i always have to because otherwise i

3233
02:17:40,549 --> 02:17:39,679
will lose

3234
02:17:44,389 --> 02:17:40,559
grip

3235
02:17:46,549 --> 02:17:44,399
i think if i don't discuss with myself

3236
02:17:48,709 --> 02:17:46,559
uh the the positive and the negative

3237
02:17:50,070 --> 02:17:48,719
thing about these cases

3238
02:17:54,150 --> 02:17:50,080
why do you think the government the

3239
02:17:58,389 --> 02:17:54,160
united states government uh is suddenly

3240
02:18:01,429 --> 02:17:58,399
um at least uh uh the front side of the

3241
02:18:03,429 --> 02:18:01,439
public is is interested in the subject

3242
02:18:05,270 --> 02:18:03,439
suddenly and

3243
02:18:07,669 --> 02:18:05,280
and they're starting to ask questions

3244
02:18:09,349 --> 02:18:07,679
you know the uap task force and reports

3245
02:18:12,070 --> 02:18:09,359
and the senate intelligence committee

3246
02:18:13,190 --> 02:18:12,080
the the gillibrand amendment

3247
02:18:15,270 --> 02:18:13,200
uh

3248
02:18:17,990 --> 02:18:15,280
susan goff and the pentagon and these

3249
02:18:19,910 --> 02:18:18,000
announcements and suddenly

3250
02:18:21,910 --> 02:18:19,920
it's a conversation why do you think

3251
02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:21,920
this is happening now

3252
02:18:28,230 --> 02:18:24,880
i think those people who are

3253
02:18:29,349 --> 02:18:28,240
addressing to this matter is

3254
02:18:31,349 --> 02:18:29,359
people that

3255
02:18:33,509 --> 02:18:31,359
maybe a little bit younger

3256
02:18:38,070 --> 02:18:33,519
and

3257
02:18:40,709 --> 02:18:38,080
stuff you know that mainly is in

3258
02:18:42,469 --> 02:18:40,719
in in the the top offices

3259
02:18:45,190 --> 02:18:42,479
i think

3260
02:18:48,070 --> 02:18:45,200
they also are curious what's going on

3261
02:18:50,070 --> 02:18:48,080
and uh i think it becomes maybe a little

3262
02:18:53,349 --> 02:18:50,080
bit personal to them as well to to

3263
02:18:55,509 --> 02:18:53,359
figure it out and on the other hand also

3264
02:18:58,389 --> 02:18:55,519
to win some points maybe whoever can

3265
02:19:00,549 --> 02:18:58,399
figure it out first will become

3266
02:19:02,230 --> 02:19:00,559
some some kind of hero or whatever you

3267
02:19:03,429 --> 02:19:02,240
want to call it but

3268
02:19:06,790 --> 02:19:03,439
i think it's

3269
02:19:09,349 --> 02:19:06,800
genuine and interesting you know

3270
02:19:12,309 --> 02:19:09,359
in the government as well

3271
02:19:14,150 --> 02:19:12,319
maybe they maybe they feel they're being

3272
02:19:17,110 --> 02:19:14,160
you know screwed

3273
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:17,120
over by by their colleagues as well you

3274
02:19:23,830 --> 02:19:21,040
know that the the people who has the

3275
02:19:26,469 --> 02:19:23,840
you know know-how and things so you're

3276
02:19:29,270 --> 02:19:26,479
suggesting that's an interesting take if

3277
02:19:31,589 --> 02:19:29,280
i'm understanding you uh correctly

3278
02:19:34,389 --> 02:19:31,599
that it's a generational thing that this

3279
02:19:36,469 --> 02:19:34,399
is a younger group that is coming up and

3280
02:19:38,709 --> 02:19:36,479
they look at the subject

3281
02:19:41,190 --> 02:19:38,719
differently and seriously

3282
02:19:43,349 --> 02:19:41,200
and they're fighting the older

3283
02:19:45,750 --> 02:19:43,359
generation above them

3284
02:19:47,669 --> 02:19:45,760
but that doesn't want disclosure for the

3285
02:19:49,030 --> 02:19:47,679
for their own reasons and is that what

3286
02:19:51,990 --> 02:19:49,040
you're suggesting and that's pretty

3287
02:19:53,830 --> 02:19:52,000
interesting if it is yeah yeah it is uh

3288
02:19:56,550 --> 02:19:53,840
and i think you know the older

3289
02:19:58,950 --> 02:19:56,560
generation are more religious as well

3290
02:20:00,790 --> 02:19:58,960
and they don't really want to

3291
02:20:02,950 --> 02:20:00,800
rob the balance

3292
02:20:05,190 --> 02:20:02,960
what it is and i think the the the

3293
02:20:08,230 --> 02:20:05,200
younger generation is more

3294
02:20:12,150 --> 02:20:10,070
i don't know uh

3295
02:20:15,110 --> 02:20:12,160
free thinking kind of

3296
02:20:16,950 --> 02:20:15,120
and i think maybe some of these people

3297
02:20:19,110 --> 02:20:16,960
as well i'm talking

3298
02:20:21,590 --> 02:20:19,120
younger generation 50s

3299
02:20:24,389 --> 02:20:21,600
you know not the 80s but that's how it

3300
02:20:26,070 --> 02:20:24,399
is right now and

3301
02:20:27,510 --> 02:20:26,080
i think they

3302
02:20:29,990 --> 02:20:27,520
they generally

3303
02:20:31,830 --> 02:20:30,000
has a interest in it they're curious

3304
02:20:33,670 --> 02:20:31,840
they want to know what it is

3305
02:20:35,590 --> 02:20:33,680
and they hear all the rumors that the

3306
02:20:37,429 --> 02:20:35,600
government knows but they're in the

3307
02:20:39,830 --> 02:20:37,439
government and they don't know

3308
02:20:41,349 --> 02:20:39,840
so they start getting cures as well

3309
02:20:43,670 --> 02:20:41,359
and

3310
02:20:47,590 --> 02:20:43,680
yeah that's just my theory you know

3311
02:20:50,710 --> 02:20:47,600
somebody uh just posted was asking if uh

3312
02:20:52,389 --> 02:20:50,720
uh you uh what cities in canada

3313
02:20:53,750 --> 02:20:52,399
i i want to get this in before we get

3314
02:20:55,590 --> 02:20:53,760
out of the uh

3315
02:20:58,070 --> 02:20:55,600
uh uh

3316
02:21:00,550 --> 02:20:58,080
uh end this conversation you are

3317
02:21:01,990 --> 02:21:00,560
literally going across canada you've got

3318
02:21:04,230 --> 02:21:02,000
montreal

3319
02:21:08,630 --> 02:21:04,240
you've got uh toronto

3320
02:21:11,590 --> 02:21:08,640
uh you've got winnipeg regina edmonton

3321
02:21:14,150 --> 02:21:11,600
uh and then finishing it out on the west

3322
02:21:17,510 --> 02:21:14,160
coast over in vancouver so that's a

3323
02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:17,520
that's a full string across uh in march

3324
02:21:19,910 --> 02:21:19,120
across canada

3325
02:21:22,950 --> 02:21:19,920
yep

3326
02:21:27,270 --> 02:21:22,960
definitely yeah very cool very cool um

3327
02:21:29,429 --> 02:21:27,280
now okay so uh back to this

3328
02:21:31,349 --> 02:21:29,439
with you know you know the sorry for

3329
02:21:34,710 --> 02:21:31,359
interrupting you no no also another

3330
02:21:35,590 --> 02:21:34,720
thing with uap what the hell is that is

3331
02:21:40,309 --> 02:21:35,600
it a

3332
02:21:42,710 --> 02:21:40,319
about ufos so they had to rename it so

3333
02:21:45,910 --> 02:21:42,720
it doesn't feel so bad when it crawls

3334
02:21:47,429 --> 02:21:45,920
out later on you read my mind

3335
02:21:49,030 --> 02:21:47,439
because

3336
02:21:51,830 --> 02:21:49,040
there is

3337
02:21:53,429 --> 02:21:51,840
there's a reason for this for the sudden

3338
02:21:55,190 --> 02:21:53,439
interest right the government is our

3339
02:21:56,950 --> 02:21:55,200
friend you know all of a sudden so

3340
02:21:58,469 --> 02:21:56,960
there's a reason for it

3341
02:22:00,150 --> 02:21:58,479
and to

3342
02:22:03,349 --> 02:22:00,160
suddenly

3343
02:22:07,990 --> 02:22:03,359
uh call everything uap

3344
02:22:10,389 --> 02:22:08,000
when ufo has its immediate identifier

3345
02:22:11,990 --> 02:22:10,399
peter right immediate identifier we all

3346
02:22:13,670 --> 02:22:12,000
know what a ufo is

3347
02:22:15,590 --> 02:22:13,680
and you know they're covering covering

3348
02:22:17,510 --> 02:22:15,600
their butts that's all there is you know

3349
02:22:19,990 --> 02:22:17,520
because then they can say

3350
02:22:21,990 --> 02:22:20,000
well ufps are real we never said he

3351
02:22:23,990 --> 02:22:22,000
wasn't

3352
02:22:27,670 --> 02:22:24,000
did there there's a reason for it i

3353
02:22:29,910 --> 02:22:27,680
think there's a and now let's uh

3354
02:22:33,429 --> 02:22:29,920
let's suppose

3355
02:22:35,110 --> 02:22:33,439
that the drama happens right

3356
02:22:36,389 --> 02:22:35,120
they go straight up okay we're being

3357
02:22:37,550 --> 02:22:36,399
visited

3358
02:22:41,990 --> 02:22:37,560
um

3359
02:22:44,389 --> 02:22:42,000
disclosure and it i i keep going back to

3360
02:22:47,270 --> 02:22:44,399
uh the way that you have dealt with it

3361
02:22:50,389 --> 02:22:47,280
in your own songs and your own approach

3362
02:22:53,349 --> 02:22:50,399
disclosure is big

3363
02:22:54,389 --> 02:22:53,359
it's not just one thing it's not et is

3364
02:22:58,550 --> 02:22:54,399
here

3365
02:23:00,790 --> 02:22:58,560
it will have so many layers of the onion

3366
02:23:02,230 --> 02:23:00,800
that have to get peeled back now

3367
02:23:05,429 --> 02:23:02,240
that the government is going to have to

3368
02:23:07,270 --> 02:23:05,439
deal with uh an infinite an endless

3369
02:23:10,550 --> 02:23:07,280
amount of questions

3370
02:23:13,830 --> 02:23:10,560
endless it's it's it's just not one

3371
02:23:15,510 --> 02:23:13,840
and and also also the cover-ups you know

3372
02:23:19,030 --> 02:23:15,520
that's been around

3373
02:23:20,870 --> 02:23:19,040
which is my point how how can you well

3374
02:23:23,429 --> 02:23:20,880
i would say like hey that was the other

3375
02:23:25,590 --> 02:23:23,439
generation that's not us sorry

3376
02:23:28,230 --> 02:23:25,600
you know but it's not that easy you know

3377
02:23:30,550 --> 02:23:28,240
because a government will never

3378
02:23:32,550 --> 02:23:30,560
admit they lie no matter if they were

3379
02:23:35,510 --> 02:23:32,560
not in charge at that time or not they

3380
02:23:38,389 --> 02:23:35,520
will never that that's just like

3381
02:23:41,110 --> 02:23:38,399
uh rule number one when you become a

3382
02:23:42,790 --> 02:23:41,120
politician never admit that you lie

3383
02:23:45,190 --> 02:23:42,800
yeah that's how it is yeah you're right

3384
02:23:48,469 --> 02:23:45,200
though so what about roswell that wasn't

3385
02:23:51,750 --> 02:23:50,070
exactly that was the other generation

3386
02:23:55,030 --> 02:23:51,760
that was then

3387
02:23:56,870 --> 02:23:55,040
yeah exactly we need to talk about 2004

3388
02:23:59,349 --> 02:23:56,880
forward you know

3389
02:24:02,150 --> 02:23:59,359
that's the period uh that we're talking

3390
02:24:06,550 --> 02:24:02,160
about because everything comes into play

3391
02:24:09,510 --> 02:24:06,560
here everything money fossil fuels

3392
02:24:13,030 --> 02:24:09,520
uh weapons technology

3393
02:24:14,870 --> 02:24:13,040
uh free energy can you imagine

3394
02:24:18,070 --> 02:24:14,880
if but

3395
02:24:19,830 --> 02:24:18,080
just just imagine this if um

3396
02:24:21,590 --> 02:24:19,840
you're sitting on technology that you

3397
02:24:23,990 --> 02:24:21,600
can rule the world do you want to share

3398
02:24:26,550 --> 02:24:24,000
with it someone else no

3399
02:24:29,190 --> 02:24:26,560
of course not that's why you keep it in

3400
02:24:31,510 --> 02:24:29,200
in the uh defense

3401
02:24:33,030 --> 02:24:31,520
it's very simple you know i i said

3402
02:24:33,990 --> 02:24:33,040
something once

3403
02:24:36,469 --> 02:24:34,000
uh

3404
02:24:40,150 --> 02:24:36,479
peter and and and i realized it was kind

3405
02:24:43,349 --> 02:24:40,160
of offensive but it's really the truth

3406
02:24:47,270 --> 02:24:43,359
the president of the united states

3407
02:24:48,389 --> 02:24:47,280
is going to always lie about this

3408
02:24:50,070 --> 02:24:48,399
you can't

3409
02:24:53,110 --> 02:24:50,080
how how can you

3410
02:24:55,270 --> 02:24:53,120
if you are sitting on alien technology

3411
02:24:57,429 --> 02:24:55,280
right and you have the answers to this

3412
02:24:59,110 --> 02:24:57,439
question that's the secret you're going

3413
02:25:01,750 --> 02:24:59,120
to take to the grave

3414
02:25:03,510 --> 02:25:01,760
right why why would anybody be surprised

3415
02:25:05,830 --> 02:25:03,520
about that

3416
02:25:08,710 --> 02:25:05,840
yeah that's something we have to learn

3417
02:25:11,270 --> 02:25:08,720
you know to accept that unfortunately

3418
02:25:12,870 --> 02:25:11,280
it can't come from the governments

3419
02:25:14,150 --> 02:25:12,880
you know it has to come from somewhere

3420
02:25:16,870 --> 02:25:14,160
else either

3421
02:25:19,750 --> 02:25:16,880
et itself just go okay it's time now

3422
02:25:21,510 --> 02:25:19,760
right you all just stand and watch you

3423
02:25:22,389 --> 02:25:21,520
know and accept it

3424
02:25:24,550 --> 02:25:22,399
or

3425
02:25:27,110 --> 02:25:24,560
i don't know what else but i

3426
02:25:29,030 --> 02:25:27,120
highly doubt that

3427
02:25:30,309 --> 02:25:29,040
it would come from

3428
02:25:32,710 --> 02:25:30,319
from uh

3429
02:25:35,270 --> 02:25:32,720
the government or or

3430
02:25:38,469 --> 02:25:35,280
nasa or whatever you know

3431
02:25:40,790 --> 02:25:38,479
i highly doubt it it will come whether

3432
02:25:43,830 --> 02:25:40,800
they like it or not if it comes

3433
02:25:45,110 --> 02:25:43,840
does the world freak out

3434
02:25:47,270 --> 02:25:45,120
i don't know

3435
02:25:48,550 --> 02:25:47,280
that that's the question i know i won't

3436
02:25:50,469 --> 02:25:48,560
freak out

3437
02:25:52,950 --> 02:25:50,479
at least i don't think so

3438
02:25:55,910 --> 02:25:52,960
but you know there's other generations

3439
02:25:58,230 --> 02:25:55,920
and there's other people who has

3440
02:26:00,469 --> 02:25:58,240
no interest in this and

3441
02:26:03,429 --> 02:26:00,479
they're more focused on their everyday

3442
02:26:04,630 --> 02:26:03,439
thing and don't really think as wide as

3443
02:26:06,710 --> 02:26:04,640
we do

3444
02:26:08,230 --> 02:26:06,720
so maybe they will freak out i really

3445
02:26:12,230 --> 02:26:08,240
don't know

3446
02:26:16,070 --> 02:26:12,240
you brought up um a really good point uh

3447
02:26:18,550 --> 02:26:16,080
uh going back to december of 2017

3448
02:26:21,670 --> 02:26:18,560
uh you and i were together we were

3449
02:26:22,710 --> 02:26:21,680
talking about this subject

3450
02:26:29,429 --> 02:26:22,720
and

3451
02:26:33,110 --> 02:26:29,439
world didn't lose their minds

3452
02:26:36,710 --> 02:26:33,120
it seemed pretty

3453
02:26:39,030 --> 02:26:36,720
uh uh almost natural right i think that

3454
02:26:40,389 --> 02:26:39,040
the reaction was

3455
02:26:42,309 --> 02:26:40,399
so

3456
02:26:45,270 --> 02:26:42,319
right what do you expect there's no way

3457
02:26:47,349 --> 02:26:45,280
we could be alone in the universe

3458
02:26:48,790 --> 02:26:47,359
of course we're not i mean we're just a

3459
02:26:50,070 --> 02:26:48,800
little

3460
02:26:53,590 --> 02:26:50,080
grand of

3461
02:26:55,750 --> 02:26:53,600
of uh uh sand in in the universe you

3462
02:26:57,670 --> 02:26:55,760
know not even a grain of sand a grand of

3463
02:26:59,750 --> 02:26:57,680
grants of ascent

3464
02:27:01,670 --> 02:26:59,760
so i mean of course there's got to be

3465
02:27:03,910 --> 02:27:01,680
life somewhere else but the the big

3466
02:27:06,630 --> 02:27:03,920
thing is like how do you

3467
02:27:09,830 --> 02:27:06,640
travel in between these distance or

3468
02:27:11,270 --> 02:27:09,840
through dimensions or whatever

3469
02:27:13,349 --> 02:27:11,280
you know

3470
02:27:14,550 --> 02:27:13,359
that is the tricky question but on the

3471
02:27:15,510 --> 02:27:14,560
other hand

3472
02:27:17,990 --> 02:27:15,520
uh

3473
02:27:20,469 --> 02:27:18,000
you've seen the revolution for us 200

3474
02:27:23,670 --> 02:27:20,479
years let's say there's a civilization

3475
02:27:26,630 --> 02:27:23,680
that is 500 years ahead of us

3476
02:27:27,670 --> 02:27:26,640
i wonder where we will be in 500 years

3477
02:27:29,670 --> 02:27:27,680
maybe we

3478
02:27:31,990 --> 02:27:29,680
it will be just like

3479
02:27:34,070 --> 02:27:32,000
talking on the cell phone to to teleport

3480
02:27:37,110 --> 02:27:34,080
yourself somewhere else on the earth

3481
02:27:41,990 --> 02:27:39,670
i don't know i mean the universe who

3482
02:27:43,429 --> 02:27:42,000
knows how big and

3483
02:27:44,309 --> 02:27:43,439
how long it's been

3484
02:27:47,349 --> 02:27:44,319
it

3485
02:27:49,990 --> 02:27:47,359
been been around you know nobody can

3486
02:27:54,070 --> 02:27:50,000
really say for sure they think the earth

3487
02:27:56,309 --> 02:27:54,080
has been 4.6 billion years and only that

3488
02:27:59,110 --> 02:27:56,319
the last 200 years we actually learned

3489
02:28:01,990 --> 02:27:59,120
how to wipe our asses with

3490
02:28:02,950 --> 02:28:02,000
with paper you know right so

3491
02:28:04,790 --> 02:28:02,960
it's

3492
02:28:06,550 --> 02:28:04,800
you know you have to think also you know

3493
02:28:08,389 --> 02:28:06,560
if they're so advanced

3494
02:28:09,590 --> 02:28:08,399
you know there's got to be civilizations

3495
02:28:11,910 --> 02:28:09,600
that are

3496
02:28:12,870 --> 02:28:11,920
a lot more advanced than us but also on

3497
02:28:16,309 --> 02:28:12,880
the

3498
02:28:18,469 --> 02:28:16,319
just

3499
02:28:20,950 --> 02:28:18,479
have to know where they are

3500
02:28:21,750 --> 02:28:20,960
and i think you know

3501
02:28:24,150 --> 02:28:21,760
yeah

3502
02:28:27,110 --> 02:28:24,160
do you think uh what side of the fence

3503
02:28:29,349 --> 02:28:27,120
are you on um are you

3504
02:28:33,110 --> 02:28:29,359
a nuts and bolts

3505
02:28:35,429 --> 02:28:33,120
physical craft somehow getting here

3506
02:28:36,790 --> 02:28:35,439
or do you think it's inter-dimensional

3507
02:28:38,230 --> 02:28:36,800
and

3508
02:28:40,550 --> 02:28:38,240
this

3509
02:28:42,950 --> 02:28:40,560
it's not the speed of light it's the

3510
02:28:44,550 --> 02:28:42,960
speed of now right and and that and

3511
02:28:48,389 --> 02:28:44,560
that's how the

3512
02:28:49,349 --> 02:28:48,399
where do where do you where do you stand

3513
02:28:55,510 --> 02:28:49,359
i

3514
02:28:57,190 --> 02:28:55,520
the way

3515
02:29:00,150 --> 02:28:57,200
people are describing things like the

3516
02:29:03,590 --> 02:29:00,160
grace i think they're

3517
02:29:05,030 --> 02:29:03,600
yeah robots you know and

3518
02:29:07,590 --> 02:29:05,040
somehow

3519
02:29:09,110 --> 02:29:07,600
with their ships

3520
02:29:12,630 --> 02:29:09,120
they become one

3521
02:29:14,150 --> 02:29:12,640
so to speak i don't know if it's plasma

3522
02:29:16,790 --> 02:29:14,160
uh or

3523
02:29:19,590 --> 02:29:16,800
you know different dimension kind of uh

3524
02:29:21,510 --> 02:29:19,600
in and out things i really don't know

3525
02:29:23,110 --> 02:29:21,520
but

3526
02:29:25,349 --> 02:29:23,120
it's so hard you know

3527
02:29:28,070 --> 02:29:25,359
it takes you as far as your fantasy goes

3528
02:29:30,389 --> 02:29:28,080
you know how far you can think about it

3529
02:29:33,110 --> 02:29:30,399
i would say i think it's not just one

3530
02:29:35,510 --> 02:29:33,120
thing i think it's many things even if

3531
02:29:36,469 --> 02:29:35,520
it's nuts and balls i still think they

3532
02:29:38,790 --> 02:29:36,479
can

3533
02:29:40,070 --> 02:29:38,800
go through uh dimensions and things like

3534
02:29:44,389 --> 02:29:40,080
that

3535
02:29:49,590 --> 02:29:47,190
the professor from harvard

3536
02:29:51,950 --> 02:29:49,600
and he's got the galileo project right

3537
02:29:53,910 --> 02:29:51,960
now and he's he had the book

3538
02:29:56,710 --> 02:29:53,920
extraterrestrial and if you have you

3539
02:29:57,830 --> 02:29:56,720
you've only read four books well make it

3540
02:30:00,150 --> 02:29:57,840
five

3541
02:30:04,710 --> 02:30:00,160
all right and read extraterrestrial by

3542
02:30:06,710 --> 02:30:04,720
avi loeb he talks about omua

3543
02:30:09,429 --> 02:30:06,720
right and and that's what the book is

3544
02:30:12,150 --> 02:30:09,439
about presenting uh

3545
02:30:15,110 --> 02:30:12,160
the the data behind

3546
02:30:17,590 --> 02:30:15,120
uh supporting that that is uh not

3547
02:30:20,469 --> 02:30:17,600
natural that it was our first visitor

3548
02:30:23,270 --> 02:30:20,479
from interstellar space but the reason

3549
02:30:25,590 --> 02:30:23,280
why i bring up avi loeb is he

3550
02:30:27,750 --> 02:30:25,600
here he is an astrophysicist theoretical

3551
02:30:29,110 --> 02:30:27,760
physicist from harvard

3552
02:30:31,349 --> 02:30:29,120
pushing

3553
02:30:34,630 --> 02:30:31,359
this et

3554
02:30:35,590 --> 02:30:34,640
research and this hasn't happened

3555
02:30:37,750 --> 02:30:35,600
uh

3556
02:30:38,950 --> 02:30:37,760
at least this dramatically like ever

3557
02:30:42,710 --> 02:30:38,960
before

3558
02:30:44,830 --> 02:30:42,720
and is that a way to approach this and

3559
02:30:48,230 --> 02:30:44,840
not have the government

3560
02:30:50,070 --> 02:30:48,240
involved definitely i think it's

3561
02:30:51,510 --> 02:30:50,080
it should be more

3562
02:30:53,030 --> 02:30:51,520
privatized

3563
02:30:54,950 --> 02:30:53,040
you know

3564
02:30:56,790 --> 02:30:54,960
because as soon as you have governments

3565
02:30:58,790 --> 02:30:56,800
involved

3566
02:31:00,550 --> 02:30:58,800
there will be a lot of cover-ups there

3567
02:31:03,670 --> 02:31:00,560
will be a lot of things that you can't

3568
02:31:05,670 --> 02:31:03,680
say you won't be able to do this or that

3569
02:31:09,110 --> 02:31:05,680
and they will sit on the

3570
02:31:13,590 --> 02:31:09,120
the secrets or whatever it may be

3571
02:31:15,830 --> 02:31:13,600
i think yeah to privatize it to make

3572
02:31:17,990 --> 02:31:15,840
people i mean educated people that knows

3573
02:31:19,910 --> 02:31:18,000
what they're talking about not not me

3574
02:31:22,150 --> 02:31:19,920
like sitting and rambling and

3575
02:31:23,910 --> 02:31:22,160
fantasizing but people who actually know

3576
02:31:25,510 --> 02:31:23,920
what the hell they're talking about

3577
02:31:30,550 --> 02:31:25,520
those are the people we need to bring

3578
02:31:33,910 --> 02:31:32,230
uh

3579
02:31:36,309 --> 02:31:33,920
good question they had a lot of

3580
02:31:37,510 --> 02:31:36,319
sightings but it was never really in one

3581
02:31:40,230 --> 02:31:37,520
spot

3582
02:31:41,270 --> 02:31:40,240
in the 70s 80s and stuff like that i

3583
02:31:43,990 --> 02:31:41,280
really

3584
02:31:44,870 --> 02:31:44,000
more know more about

3585
02:31:46,950 --> 02:31:44,880
uh

3586
02:31:49,190 --> 02:31:46,960
sightings around the world than except

3587
02:31:50,550 --> 02:31:49,200
in my own country to be honest

3588
02:31:53,270 --> 02:31:50,560
um

3589
02:31:54,389 --> 02:31:53,280
but there's been a few you know you you

3590
02:31:56,630 --> 02:31:54,399
have a

3591
02:31:58,150 --> 02:31:56,640
i remember in the 70s 80s they they had

3592
02:32:01,349 --> 02:31:58,160
uh this uh

3593
02:32:04,550 --> 02:32:01,359
ufo community kind of a thing you know

3594
02:32:07,030 --> 02:32:04,560
where you got your monthly paper news

3595
02:32:10,150 --> 02:32:07,040
things and and stuff like that

3596
02:32:11,510 --> 02:32:10,160
but uh

3597
02:32:15,750 --> 02:32:11,520
to be honest

3598
02:32:17,910 --> 02:32:15,760
now when i think about maybe i should

3599
02:32:20,150 --> 02:32:17,920
start focusing but it's nothing really

3600
02:32:22,469 --> 02:32:20,160
happening now in sweden that's

3601
02:32:24,710 --> 02:32:22,479
interesting for me it's all in the past

3602
02:32:27,190 --> 02:32:24,720
it's not like a roswell thing or or

3603
02:32:28,070 --> 02:32:27,200
anything else but

3604
02:32:30,870 --> 02:32:28,080
yeah

3605
02:32:33,590 --> 02:32:30,880
i would say nah kind of boring

3606
02:32:34,550 --> 02:32:33,600
one last i tell you a funny story though

3607
02:32:39,030 --> 02:32:34,560
my

3608
02:32:41,670 --> 02:32:39,040
out driving and they were

3609
02:32:43,830 --> 02:32:41,680
chased by a ufo to be honest and my

3610
02:32:45,590 --> 02:32:43,840
grandma before she passed she she said

3611
02:32:47,910 --> 02:32:45,600
you know she

3612
02:32:50,070 --> 02:32:47,920
she always thought she saw it again

3613
02:32:52,230 --> 02:32:50,080
after that wait wait wait wait you

3614
02:32:53,750 --> 02:32:52,240
waited till the end of the show to tell

3615
02:32:56,710 --> 02:32:53,760
me that

3616
02:32:58,950 --> 02:32:56,720
what happened we're going to

3617
02:33:00,710 --> 02:32:58,960
wait wait wait wait wait

3618
02:33:03,349 --> 02:33:00,720
wait okay

3619
02:33:06,630 --> 02:33:03,359
oh wow no they they actually

3620
02:33:08,870 --> 02:33:06,640
it's it's a funny story uh i mean my dad

3621
02:33:11,349 --> 02:33:08,880
told me that first and and then

3622
02:33:13,030 --> 02:33:11,359
they also told me okay what happened

3623
02:33:15,590 --> 02:33:13,040
what happened

3624
02:33:18,309 --> 02:33:15,600
they were out driving somewhere and they

3625
02:33:21,670 --> 02:33:18,319
were going from a to b i i can't really

3626
02:33:23,670 --> 02:33:21,680
remember and uh

3627
02:33:26,070 --> 02:33:23,680
my father's sister

3628
02:33:27,910 --> 02:33:26,080
was driving and grandma was sitting

3629
02:33:30,790 --> 02:33:27,920
beside and she was like look at that

3630
02:33:32,630 --> 02:33:30,800
what is that and they they said it

3631
02:33:34,710 --> 02:33:32,640
actually chased them when they were

3632
02:33:36,230 --> 02:33:34,720
driving the car and and was

3633
02:33:38,150 --> 02:33:36,240
kind of

3634
02:33:39,510 --> 02:33:38,160
you know diving against them and and

3635
02:33:40,870 --> 02:33:39,520
moving away

3636
02:33:43,670 --> 02:33:40,880
and things

3637
02:33:46,950 --> 02:33:43,680
it was fascinating yeah it was a light

3638
02:33:48,550 --> 02:33:46,960
or some sort that you know came up close

3639
02:33:50,950 --> 02:33:48,560
to them and then disappeared again and

3640
02:33:53,429 --> 02:33:50,960
came down again and they were driving

3641
02:33:56,790 --> 02:33:53,439
for their life they were really scared

3642
02:33:59,270 --> 02:33:56,800
and it disappeared and my dad said that

3643
02:34:01,590 --> 02:33:59,280
grandma saw saw these things a couple of

3644
02:34:05,030 --> 02:34:01,600
more times afterwards and before so i

3645
02:34:07,670 --> 02:34:05,040
don't know if it's she had some genetic

3646
02:34:12,870 --> 02:34:10,230
i don't know like like um

3647
02:34:14,950 --> 02:34:12,880
how can you say it a magnetic thing to

3648
02:34:17,750 --> 02:34:14,960
it a consciousness a conscious

3649
02:34:20,550 --> 02:34:17,760
connection yeah something because she

3650
02:34:23,190 --> 02:34:20,560
said she saw it many times but never

3651
02:34:25,750 --> 02:34:23,200
like in your face or but but there was

3652
02:34:26,710 --> 02:34:25,760
always something not always but many

3653
02:34:27,830 --> 02:34:26,720
times

3654
02:34:30,230 --> 02:34:27,840
something around

3655
02:34:32,710 --> 02:34:30,240
you know i mentioned this uh earlier

3656
02:34:35,429 --> 02:34:32,720
tonight at the opening of the show you

3657
02:34:37,190 --> 02:34:35,439
just never know

3658
02:34:39,750 --> 02:34:37,200
who is going to talk to you about this

3659
02:34:41,349 --> 02:34:39,760
stuff you just don't know you cannot

3660
02:34:42,950 --> 02:34:41,359
dismiss it

3661
02:34:45,750 --> 02:34:42,960
and

3662
02:34:47,990 --> 02:34:45,760
this

3663
02:34:48,950 --> 02:34:48,000
yeah yes is it true and she said yeah

3664
02:34:50,870 --> 02:34:48,960
and

3665
02:34:52,550 --> 02:34:50,880
my dad's sister was sitting beside it is

3666
02:34:54,389 --> 02:34:52,560
the truth i mean i saw in their eyes

3667
02:34:57,030 --> 02:34:54,399
they were serious you know i was like

3668
02:34:58,950 --> 02:34:57,040
holy moly

3669
02:35:00,710 --> 02:34:58,960
you know and this was like in the 80s

3670
02:35:02,710 --> 02:35:00,720
when they told me about that i was like

3671
02:35:03,830 --> 02:35:02,720
holy okay wow

3672
02:35:06,550 --> 02:35:03,840
wow

3673
02:35:08,790 --> 02:35:06,560
and uh did they describe i i know you

3674
02:35:10,790 --> 02:35:08,800
said it was a light did they did they

3675
02:35:12,469 --> 02:35:10,800
get a good look at it

3676
02:35:14,550 --> 02:35:12,479
they just said it was this light

3677
02:35:16,950 --> 02:35:14,560
following them and and and was you know

3678
02:35:19,270 --> 02:35:16,960
diving against them and away again and

3679
02:35:20,230 --> 02:35:19,280
things like that and she was

3680
02:35:22,309 --> 02:35:20,240
it was

3681
02:35:23,990 --> 02:35:22,319
pedal to the metal you know when she was

3682
02:35:26,309 --> 02:35:24,000
driving she was trying to get away from

3683
02:35:27,590 --> 02:35:26,319
it they were really scared did your dad

3684
02:35:29,270 --> 02:35:27,600
see it

3685
02:35:31,429 --> 02:35:29,280
no he never seen it

3686
02:35:33,990 --> 02:35:31,439
okay

3687
02:35:35,750 --> 02:35:34,000
your dad was with them or was it just

3688
02:35:37,590 --> 02:35:35,760
your dad no just the two of them oh it's

3689
02:35:39,190 --> 02:35:37,600
just the two of them oh i get it i get

3690
02:35:41,349 --> 02:35:39,200
it i get it i thought you said your dad

3691
02:35:43,510 --> 02:35:41,359
was with them too as well that's

3692
02:35:45,270 --> 02:35:43,520
incredible

3693
02:35:47,349 --> 02:35:45,280
he was telling me about the story and

3694
02:35:48,870 --> 02:35:47,359
then i had to confront them and said was

3695
02:35:51,349 --> 02:35:48,880
it true and they were like that

3696
02:35:53,110 --> 02:35:51,359
seriously they're like yeah

3697
02:35:57,750 --> 02:35:53,120
well see and that's the other part see

3698
02:36:00,950 --> 02:35:57,760
that's the other part of december 2017.

3699
02:36:03,750 --> 02:36:00,960
it it's not necessarily about the secret

3700
02:36:05,670 --> 02:36:03,760
government program or tom de long

3701
02:36:09,270 --> 02:36:05,680
and lou elizondo and it's not

3702
02:36:12,550 --> 02:36:09,280
necessarily about that but what it does

3703
02:36:15,590 --> 02:36:12,560
start is the conversation

3704
02:36:18,389 --> 02:36:15,600
and now there are people out there that

3705
02:36:20,950 --> 02:36:18,399
would have never i've experienced it

3706
02:36:22,950 --> 02:36:20,960
that i've never talked to about ufos

3707
02:36:24,630 --> 02:36:22,960
before now because they think they're

3708
02:36:26,870 --> 02:36:24,640
going to get locked up in the cuckoo's

3709
02:36:29,830 --> 02:36:26,880
nest you know right

3710
02:36:32,870 --> 02:36:29,840
and and now yeah now it's okay

3711
02:36:35,190 --> 02:36:32,880
yeah exactly so

3712
02:36:37,349 --> 02:36:35,200
you know we all welcome more more

3713
02:36:41,190 --> 02:36:37,359
stories from people you know

3714
02:36:44,710 --> 02:36:41,200
to hear new aspects of things ah man why

3715
02:36:47,270 --> 02:36:44,720
why why do you think it is uh that

3716
02:36:50,790 --> 02:36:47,280
we're only hearing the military side of

3717
02:36:53,510 --> 02:36:50,800
this would you be surprised or would you

3718
02:36:56,469 --> 02:36:53,520
want uh the senate intelligence

3719
02:37:00,309 --> 02:36:56,479
uh committee to to hear from civilians

3720
02:37:05,670 --> 02:37:01,990
i i think

3721
02:37:08,309 --> 02:37:05,680
you know we probably have a um

3722
02:37:10,790 --> 02:37:09,750
preconceived

3723
02:37:13,030 --> 02:37:10,800
uh

3724
02:37:14,710 --> 02:37:13,040
thoughts about you know the government

3725
02:37:15,830 --> 02:37:14,720
knows everything maybe they don't know

3726
02:37:17,990 --> 02:37:15,840
anything

3727
02:37:19,429 --> 02:37:18,000
that's another thing you know and maybe

3728
02:37:21,190 --> 02:37:19,439
that's why they started getting

3729
02:37:22,950 --> 02:37:21,200
interested now because they trying to

3730
02:37:24,870 --> 02:37:22,960
collect all these stories and try to

3731
02:37:28,630 --> 02:37:24,880
make sense out of it maybe they have no

3732
02:37:31,349 --> 02:37:28,640
clue at all maybe it is like uh

3733
02:37:33,590 --> 02:37:31,359
this guy from israel said you know that

3734
02:37:35,190 --> 02:37:33,600
they don't want us

3735
02:37:37,349 --> 02:37:35,200
you know they don't want to be known

3736
02:37:39,030 --> 02:37:37,359
they want to do what they're doing that

3737
02:37:40,469 --> 02:37:39,040
they've been doing for

3738
02:37:42,870 --> 02:37:40,479
hundreds of years

3739
02:37:44,230 --> 02:37:42,880
and you know and when they get caught

3740
02:37:46,550 --> 02:37:44,240
you know it's

3741
02:37:48,230 --> 02:37:46,560
that's when we get the stories but

3742
02:37:51,510 --> 02:37:48,240
shouldn't they hear

3743
02:37:53,349 --> 02:37:51,520
from people like your grandmother

3744
02:37:55,349 --> 02:37:53,359
yeah but

3745
02:37:57,990 --> 02:37:55,359
there will be a lot of people to listen

3746
02:38:00,070 --> 02:37:58,000
to you know isn't that the point

3747
02:38:01,670 --> 02:38:00,080
it is but it's still we have no

3748
02:38:04,070 --> 02:38:01,680
disclosure we just

3749
02:38:06,309 --> 02:38:04,080
have a lot of witnesses but still you

3750
02:38:07,830 --> 02:38:06,319
have nothing to touch that that's what

3751
02:38:09,670 --> 02:38:07,840
i'm missing you know what

3752
02:38:12,710 --> 02:38:09,680
when the tick tock came out

3753
02:38:15,270 --> 02:38:12,720
i i just saw a black blip

3754
02:38:16,469 --> 02:38:15,280
just going crazy you know it could be

3755
02:38:18,550 --> 02:38:16,479
anything

3756
02:38:21,270 --> 02:38:18,560
or whatever and then you hear people

3757
02:38:23,349 --> 02:38:21,280
talking and whoa and this and that

3758
02:38:25,429 --> 02:38:23,359
sure i i can make that in my studio

3759
02:38:29,590 --> 02:38:25,439
that's no problem

3760
02:38:31,990 --> 02:38:29,600
and so i it's you know i i need

3761
02:38:34,309 --> 02:38:32,000
better proof and

3762
02:38:37,270 --> 02:38:34,319
i think also that's a reason why nobody

3763
02:38:39,510 --> 02:38:37,280
jumped and went like wow because

3764
02:38:40,950 --> 02:38:39,520
the pictures was not the best

3765
02:38:44,469 --> 02:38:40,960
and

3766
02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:44,479
the way they presented it wasn't really

3767
02:38:47,190 --> 02:38:46,240
that strong either

3768
02:38:49,590 --> 02:38:47,200
how they

3769
02:38:51,670 --> 02:38:49,600
you know came out with it and it wasn't

3770
02:38:52,790 --> 02:38:51,680
new york times or yes something like

3771
02:38:54,790 --> 02:38:52,800
that it

3772
02:38:57,429 --> 02:38:54,800
was kind of fluky you know it wasn't

3773
02:38:59,270 --> 02:38:57,439
really like hitting the big drum

3774
02:39:00,950 --> 02:38:59,280
so that's also another

3775
02:39:03,990 --> 02:39:00,960
uh thing why

3776
02:39:05,270 --> 02:39:04,000
nobody was freaking out or or

3777
02:39:07,910 --> 02:39:05,280
hardly

3778
02:39:08,870 --> 02:39:07,920
raised their eyebrows for it you know

3779
02:39:10,710 --> 02:39:08,880
yeah

3780
02:39:14,469 --> 02:39:10,720
except us in the community we were like

3781
02:39:17,510 --> 02:39:14,479
yeah let's go oh let's go i i lost it

3782
02:39:20,790 --> 02:39:17,520
man and and you know my attitude back

3783
02:39:23,590 --> 02:39:20,800
then yeah i i i truly lost it but there

3784
02:39:27,349 --> 02:39:23,600
was a reason why i lost it because

3785
02:39:28,870 --> 02:39:27,359
of of my research in interviews with

3786
02:39:30,309 --> 02:39:28,880
people and and

3787
02:39:32,070 --> 02:39:30,319
and what the government knows and what

3788
02:39:35,750 --> 02:39:32,080
they don't know and everything else all

3789
02:39:38,469 --> 02:39:35,760
piled all at once i'm coming at it from

3790
02:39:40,630 --> 02:39:38,479
that perspective from that mindset i'm

3791
02:39:42,150 --> 02:39:40,640
not definitely i mean you know this is

3792
02:39:43,190 --> 02:39:42,160
what people have been talking about and

3793
02:39:45,830 --> 02:39:43,200
finally

3794
02:39:48,230 --> 02:39:45,840
something is happening i understand

3795
02:39:49,990 --> 02:39:48,240
but for me it was just like okay what's

3796
02:39:52,230 --> 02:39:50,000
next what's next and

3797
02:39:53,910 --> 02:39:52,240
there was no next thing you know so i

3798
02:39:56,469 --> 02:39:53,920
got really

3799
02:39:59,349 --> 02:39:56,479
pissed yeah yeah i was expecting you

3800
02:40:01,030 --> 02:39:59,359
know it start to unveil

3801
02:40:02,469 --> 02:40:01,040
the the whole thing you know but it

3802
02:40:03,270 --> 02:40:02,479
never did

3803
02:40:07,910 --> 02:40:03,280
no

3804
02:40:07,920 --> 02:40:12,070
les paul or stratocaster

3805
02:40:16,230 --> 02:40:13,590
well

3806
02:40:18,230 --> 02:40:16,240
i'm a jimmy page and he's freely fan so

3807
02:40:20,870 --> 02:40:18,240
i have to say les paul

3808
02:40:24,950 --> 02:40:20,880
why don't you play them on stage

3809
02:40:27,349 --> 02:40:24,960
it's so heavy it's insane my back is

3810
02:40:28,550 --> 02:40:27,359
not the best in the world never been

3811
02:40:30,389 --> 02:40:28,560
uh

3812
02:40:32,550 --> 02:40:30,399
otherwise i would have played it

3813
02:40:36,389 --> 02:40:32,560
trust me have you played the have you

3814
02:40:38,230 --> 02:40:36,399
played the weight relief ones

3815
02:40:40,309 --> 02:40:38,240
yeah but then it's not the classic less

3816
02:40:44,070 --> 02:40:40,319
pole yeah i know i know

3817
02:40:47,910 --> 02:40:44,080
i know but look i have i have both

3818
02:40:49,110 --> 02:40:47,920
and i have to say uh the weight relief

3819
02:40:50,389 --> 02:40:49,120
um

3820
02:40:53,750 --> 02:40:50,399
dramatic

3821
02:40:56,150 --> 02:40:53,760
right and it it it feels different

3822
02:40:57,349 --> 02:40:56,160
because of its lightness but it also

3823
02:41:00,630 --> 02:40:57,359
resonates

3824
02:41:02,469 --> 02:41:00,640
and really nobody knows but you

3825
02:41:04,870 --> 02:41:02,479
that it's lighter

3826
02:41:07,429 --> 02:41:04,880
that's true but on the other hand you

3827
02:41:08,550 --> 02:41:07,439
know fender i mean jimi hendrix come on

3828
02:41:10,950 --> 02:41:08,560
i know

3829
02:41:16,070 --> 02:41:13,590
yeah so many guitars playing fender as

3830
02:41:16,790 --> 02:41:16,080
well this is a thing you can't win you

3831
02:41:18,790 --> 02:41:16,800
know

3832
02:41:21,030 --> 02:41:18,800
which one should you pick

3833
02:41:22,630 --> 02:41:21,040
you know what's weird um about this

3834
02:41:23,670 --> 02:41:22,640
conversation

3835
02:41:30,389 --> 02:41:23,680
the

3836
02:41:31,510 --> 02:41:30,399
think have a really unique sound jeff

3837
02:41:35,349 --> 02:41:31,520
beck

3838
02:41:36,950 --> 02:41:35,359
right richie blackmore um

3839
02:41:38,070 --> 02:41:36,960
right

3840
02:41:38,870 --> 02:41:38,080
hendricks

3841
02:41:41,750 --> 02:41:38,880
uh

3842
02:41:43,269 --> 02:41:41,760
stevie ray vaughan right yeah you go to

3843
02:41:45,830 --> 02:41:43,279
anyway and

3844
02:41:46,710 --> 02:41:45,840
they they have this unique thing about

3845
02:41:50,070 --> 02:41:46,720
them

3846
02:41:52,630 --> 02:41:50,080
all fender right it's it's really and

3847
02:41:54,469 --> 02:41:52,640
all white fenders too as well maybe that

3848
02:41:57,110 --> 02:41:54,479
has something to do with it

3849
02:42:00,710 --> 02:41:57,120
but i mean fender has such a distinct

3850
02:42:03,110 --> 02:42:00,720
sound you you can hear it from

3851
02:42:05,349 --> 02:42:03,120
yeah from anywhere that it's a fender

3852
02:42:07,349 --> 02:42:05,359
you know it has this

3853
02:42:10,710 --> 02:42:07,359
uh this sound that

3854
02:42:12,950 --> 02:42:10,720
nothing else you know it's so unique

3855
02:42:14,790 --> 02:42:12,960
compared to a gibson

3856
02:42:16,469 --> 02:42:14,800
i don't know if you can hear if it's a

3857
02:42:18,389 --> 02:42:16,479
gibson or or

3858
02:42:21,590 --> 02:42:18,399
if it's uh

3859
02:42:23,590 --> 02:42:21,600
i don't know esp or whatever or you know

3860
02:42:25,590 --> 02:42:23,600
here's a humbucker a little bit trickier

3861
02:42:28,309 --> 02:42:25,600
yeah yeah you put that

3862
02:42:29,670 --> 02:42:28,319
when eddie put you know the humbuckers

3863
02:42:31,510 --> 02:42:29,680
in uh

3864
02:42:32,870 --> 02:42:31,520
in his strats

3865
02:42:33,750 --> 02:42:32,880
yeah um

3866
02:42:36,070 --> 02:42:33,760
then

3867
02:42:39,190 --> 02:42:36,080
it was it was great and it was creative

3868
02:42:41,590 --> 02:42:39,200
for sure but it's still a humbucker

3869
02:42:43,990 --> 02:42:41,600
um now but

3870
02:42:45,110 --> 02:42:44,000
here's my here's my other question for

3871
02:42:46,070 --> 02:42:45,120
you though

3872
02:42:47,190 --> 02:42:46,080
um

3873
02:42:49,190 --> 02:42:47,200
you

3874
02:42:51,110 --> 02:42:49,200
uh

3875
02:42:53,429 --> 02:42:51,120
when we're talking about

3876
02:42:55,269 --> 02:42:53,439
uh guitar styles

3877
02:42:57,670 --> 02:42:55,279
is there uh

3878
02:43:00,070 --> 02:42:57,680
for you you play esp on stage and you

3879
02:43:00,790 --> 02:43:00,080
play an explorer on stage

3880
02:43:03,190 --> 02:43:00,800
yeah

3881
02:43:06,230 --> 02:43:03,200
no i should say an explorer shape

3882
02:43:07,349 --> 02:43:06,240
right yeah exactly okay a snake bite uh

3883
02:43:09,910 --> 02:43:07,359
snake bite

3884
02:43:12,150 --> 02:43:09,920
do you do you play that style of uh

3885
02:43:13,750 --> 02:43:12,160
that body style because it's comfortable

3886
02:43:16,389 --> 02:43:13,760
on stage

3887
02:43:19,429 --> 02:43:16,399
yeah actually it is it's really good to

3888
02:43:21,349 --> 02:43:19,439
lean your arm on uh the way it sticks up

3889
02:43:24,150 --> 02:43:21,359
on on on the back

3890
02:43:25,349 --> 02:43:24,160
and plus i have my guitar very low

3891
02:43:28,469 --> 02:43:25,359
um

3892
02:43:31,030 --> 02:43:28,479
so it's it's comfortable but with pain i

3893
02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:31,040
i play actually with the

3894
02:43:37,190 --> 02:43:35,200
eclipse that is a copy of uh les paul

3895
02:43:39,349 --> 02:43:37,200
you know the body right it looks the

3896
02:43:41,830 --> 02:43:39,359
same so it's a little bit different for

3897
02:43:43,670 --> 02:43:41,840
for different riffings i i see pain more

3898
02:43:44,710 --> 02:43:43,680
like ac dc

3899
02:43:47,429 --> 02:43:44,720
uh

3900
02:43:50,230 --> 02:43:47,439
hot rodded a little bit you know and

3901
02:43:52,950 --> 02:43:50,240
with hypocrisy is more riffing you know

3902
02:43:54,870 --> 02:43:52,960
like a little bit more complex i mean

3903
02:43:55,990 --> 02:43:54,880
it's still not complex if you compare to

3904
02:43:58,469 --> 02:43:56,000
other bands

3905
02:44:01,349 --> 02:43:58,479
but it's more complex than compared to

3906
02:44:03,110 --> 02:44:01,359
uh pain so these two guitars

3907
02:44:04,870 --> 02:44:03,120
uh has a

3908
02:44:07,750 --> 02:44:04,880
different feeling

3909
02:44:09,590 --> 02:44:07,760
for the different styles of songs i do

3910
02:44:12,309 --> 02:44:09,600
now here you are

3911
02:44:13,429 --> 02:44:12,319
the the heavy metal

3912
02:44:15,910 --> 02:44:13,439
dude

3913
02:44:18,870 --> 02:44:15,920
and you're in your studio right now

3914
02:44:23,110 --> 02:44:18,880
yep there's telecasters in there

3915
02:44:24,070 --> 02:44:23,120
now that you can't be an og heavy metal

3916
02:44:27,110 --> 02:44:24,080
guy

3917
02:44:28,950 --> 02:44:27,120
with telecasters can you

3918
02:44:30,469 --> 02:44:28,960
well look at the guy in slipknot he's

3919
02:44:32,790 --> 02:44:30,479
playing

3920
02:44:35,030 --> 02:44:32,800
you just to go there don't you you yeah

3921
02:44:37,990 --> 02:44:35,040
i had to go there no but i i actually

3922
02:44:40,710 --> 02:44:38,000
use the telecaster for when i do slow

3923
02:44:43,190 --> 02:44:40,720
song uh songs with the picking on it

3924
02:44:45,429 --> 02:44:43,200
because the the the telecaster when it

3925
02:44:47,910 --> 02:44:45,439
comes to clean sound is

3926
02:44:50,309 --> 02:44:47,920
nothing beats it

3927
02:44:52,950 --> 02:44:50,319
and uh what year are those telecasters

3928
02:44:55,349 --> 02:44:52,960
are those new are they vintage

3929
02:44:57,910 --> 02:44:55,359
uh there's nothing really special with

3930
02:45:00,309 --> 02:44:57,920
them you know uh

3931
02:45:02,630 --> 02:45:00,319
i couldn't tell you to be honest what

3932
02:45:03,990 --> 02:45:02,640
years they are it's like i said it's not

3933
02:45:06,710 --> 02:45:04,000
really

3934
02:45:08,630 --> 02:45:06,720
uh anything special but the special

3935
02:45:10,950 --> 02:45:08,640
thing with them it's a telecaster and

3936
02:45:12,950 --> 02:45:10,960
when you put it up on on on the rhythm

3937
02:45:15,510 --> 02:45:12,960
mic you get this

3938
02:45:18,309 --> 02:45:15,520
swang that you can't really get out of

3939
02:45:20,150 --> 02:45:18,319
any other guitar you know and that

3940
02:45:22,150 --> 02:45:20,160
when you do slow songs with a lot of

3941
02:45:23,910 --> 02:45:22,160
picking like i said you know get a

3942
02:45:25,750 --> 02:45:23,920
little bit chorus on there and things

3943
02:45:28,389 --> 02:45:25,760
like that it just sounds like a million

3944
02:45:31,269 --> 02:45:28,399
dollars now i'm going to see you uh in

3945
02:45:33,910 --> 02:45:31,279
four weeks young man uh who are you guys

3946
02:45:35,590 --> 02:45:33,920
who you guys touring with

3947
02:45:40,070 --> 02:45:35,600
uh

3948
02:45:41,110 --> 02:45:40,080
the agnostic

3949
02:45:44,070 --> 02:45:41,120
of

3950
02:45:46,870 --> 02:45:44,080
and oh god now you've put me on the spot

3951
02:45:47,710 --> 02:45:46,880
here i've just been so self-confident

3952
02:45:49,910 --> 02:45:47,720
you know

3953
02:45:51,990 --> 02:45:49,920
self-concentrated on myself

3954
02:45:53,110 --> 02:45:52,000
i hardly don't know any anymore but

3955
02:45:54,710 --> 02:45:53,120
there's a

3956
02:45:57,030 --> 02:45:54,720
four-band bill

3957
02:45:57,910 --> 02:45:57,040
that's going around and

3958
02:45:59,510 --> 02:45:57,920
yeah

3959
02:46:01,429 --> 02:45:59,520
you're gonna see some cool [\h__\h] that's

3960
02:46:03,750 --> 02:46:01,439
for sure from all of them man i can't

3961
02:46:07,269 --> 02:46:03,760
wait man and uh we're gonna hang out

3962
02:46:09,349 --> 02:46:07,279
break bread eat drink be merry

3963
02:46:12,469 --> 02:46:09,359
and just have a great time i look

3964
02:46:14,150 --> 02:46:12,479
forward to it safe travels coming over

3965
02:46:16,710 --> 02:46:14,160
and and

3966
02:46:18,230 --> 02:46:16,720
i just continued success man the album

3967
02:46:20,550 --> 02:46:18,240
is amazing

3968
02:46:22,349 --> 02:46:20,560
and for everybody out there you can go

3969
02:46:24,950 --> 02:46:22,359
uh it's very simple go to

3970
02:46:27,030 --> 02:46:24,960
hypocrisyband.com i've got all of uh

3971
02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:27,040
peter's links up there but all of the

3972
02:46:32,150 --> 02:46:29,680
tour dates are right there on the home

3973
02:46:32,950 --> 02:46:32,160
page the album is there the tracks are

3974
02:46:35,750 --> 02:46:32,960
there

3975
02:46:38,309 --> 02:46:35,760
uh it's called warship it's unreal it's

3976
02:46:39,990 --> 02:46:38,319
great it's fantastic safe travels and

3977
02:46:41,349 --> 02:46:40,000
i'll see you in four weeks here in los

3978
02:46:43,190 --> 02:46:41,359
angeles

3979
02:46:46,150 --> 02:46:43,200
definitely man i can't wait to get out

3980
02:46:49,030 --> 02:46:46,160
again thank you so much peter thank you

3981
02:46:52,309 --> 02:46:49,040
behave and be well my man i'll try i'll

3982
02:46:55,349 --> 02:46:52,319
do my best

3983
02:46:57,990 --> 02:46:55,359
peter tackerin hypocrisy again it is

3984
02:47:00,349 --> 02:46:58,000
hypocrisyband.com

3985
02:47:03,750 --> 02:47:00,359
all of peter's links are right there at

3986
02:47:06,590 --> 02:47:03,760
jimmychurchradio.com payneworldwide.com

3987
02:47:10,150 --> 02:47:08,790
hypocrisyband.com forward slash live

3988
02:47:11,510 --> 02:47:10,160
everything is right there i'm yours

3989
02:47:13,690 --> 02:47:11,520
jimmy church i'll be right back after

3990
02:47:38,870 --> 02:47:13,700
this short break stay with us

3991
02:47:42,550 --> 02:47:40,950
you're listening to jimmy church and

3992
02:47:47,510 --> 02:47:42,560
fade to black

3993
02:47:51,750 --> 02:47:49,349
hey what up y'all should go biblical fox

3994
02:47:57,030 --> 02:47:51,760
here and you are listening to my boy

3995
02:48:06,130 --> 02:47:59,590
despite popular opinion

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02:52:25,590 --> 02:52:23,830
all right welcome back paint to black

4082
02:52:28,469 --> 02:52:25,600
i'm your host jimmy church

4083
02:52:31,990 --> 02:52:28,479
i want to thank peter tacker and uh

4084
02:52:35,190 --> 02:52:32,000
just an amazing conversation tonight

4085
02:52:36,309 --> 02:52:35,200
and uh during the break uh he walked

4086
02:52:39,349 --> 02:52:36,319
over

4087
02:52:42,150 --> 02:52:39,359
uh to his window and and showed me the

4088
02:52:45,750 --> 02:52:42,160
sun coming up

4089
02:52:48,150 --> 02:52:45,760
he pulled an all-nighter uh with us and

4090
02:52:49,670 --> 02:52:48,160
uh just a fantastic conversation

4091
02:52:51,670 --> 02:52:49,680
and uh

4092
02:52:54,070 --> 02:52:51,680
so much to unpack there but

4093
02:52:57,269 --> 02:52:54,080
but i'm going to say this

4094
02:52:59,590 --> 02:52:57,279
um i i mentioned uh earlier john

4095
02:53:01,349 --> 02:52:59,600
lennon's uh famous quote you know i

4096
02:53:02,469 --> 02:53:01,359
write songs for me i don't write them

4097
02:53:03,670 --> 02:53:02,479
for you

4098
02:53:06,230 --> 02:53:03,680
uh

4099
02:53:07,830 --> 02:53:06,240
you know if they've changed your life

4100
02:53:09,190 --> 02:53:07,840
that's fine

4101
02:53:11,590 --> 02:53:09,200
but

4102
02:53:15,349 --> 02:53:11,600
i write songs for me

4103
02:53:18,790 --> 02:53:15,359
right and and that's what peter does

4104
02:53:21,030 --> 02:53:18,800
and his when you go and i invite

4105
02:53:23,110 --> 02:53:21,040
everybody to do this go watch uh the

4106
02:53:25,750 --> 02:53:23,120
hypocrisy videos go watch end of

4107
02:53:28,389 --> 02:53:25,760
disclosure go watch some of these videos

4108
02:53:30,150 --> 02:53:28,399
and and and listen to the songs and you

4109
02:53:32,070 --> 02:53:30,160
suddenly

4110
02:53:33,910 --> 02:53:32,080
uh realize

4111
02:53:36,150 --> 02:53:33,920
uh

4112
02:53:37,190 --> 02:53:36,160
peter writes for himself

4113
02:53:38,550 --> 02:53:37,200
and

4114
02:53:41,670 --> 02:53:38,560
these

4115
02:53:44,710 --> 02:53:41,680
you know songs about contact and e.t and

4116
02:53:46,710 --> 02:53:44,720
us and and the new album is all about

4117
02:53:50,469 --> 02:53:46,720
that it's called warship

4118
02:53:52,150 --> 02:53:50,479
and and and go and check it out and uh

4119
02:53:55,110 --> 02:53:52,160
uh if you get a chance to go see

4120
02:53:57,670 --> 02:53:55,120
hypocrisy on on this tour that is uh

4121
02:53:59,190 --> 02:53:57,680
coming up uh immediately they're gonna

4122
02:54:01,269 --> 02:53:59,200
be here in the united states in a couple

4123
02:54:02,309 --> 02:54:01,279
of weeks and uh starting things off in

4124
02:54:06,950 --> 02:54:02,319
brooklyn

4125
02:54:07,750 --> 02:54:06,960
uh go and check out hypocrisy uh it's

4126
02:54:09,990 --> 02:54:07,760
uh

4127
02:54:11,990 --> 02:54:10,000
it's it's something that for me

4128
02:54:14,389 --> 02:54:12,000
when i go

4129
02:54:16,790 --> 02:54:14,399
and and i watch the videos and i'm and

4130
02:54:20,710 --> 02:54:16,800
and i'm reading the lyrics

4131
02:54:22,309 --> 02:54:20,720
this is peter is our community

4132
02:54:25,750 --> 02:54:22,319
and uh

4133
02:54:27,670 --> 02:54:25,760
i went out uh to dinner

4134
02:54:28,469 --> 02:54:27,680
with peter and i posted pictures of it

4135
02:54:30,389 --> 02:54:28,479
uh

4136
02:54:31,990 --> 02:54:30,399
this is a few years ago but we sat for

4137
02:54:35,990 --> 02:54:32,000
five hours

4138
02:54:37,190 --> 02:54:36,000
and talked about the phenomenon and and

4139
02:54:40,870 --> 02:54:37,200
contact

4140
02:54:42,870 --> 02:54:40,880
and and how important it is and and that

4141
02:54:44,630 --> 02:54:42,880
not only disclosure

4142
02:54:46,710 --> 02:54:44,640
but uh

4143
02:54:49,269 --> 02:54:46,720
we're not alone in the universe

4144
02:54:51,910 --> 02:54:49,279
we simply are not and

4145
02:54:57,349 --> 02:54:51,920
and for peter to

4146
02:54:59,190 --> 02:54:57,359
to not only uh be so personal uh with

4147
02:55:00,070 --> 02:54:59,200
his his concern

4148
02:55:00,950 --> 02:55:00,080
and

4149
02:55:04,309 --> 02:55:00,960
uh

4150
02:55:06,309 --> 02:55:04,319
his emotional connection to all of this

4151
02:55:10,150 --> 02:55:06,319
is not only great for our community but

4152
02:55:13,269 --> 02:55:10,160
i need to stress this his his fans

4153
02:55:15,110 --> 02:55:13,279
it's uh hypocrisy is a is a big band and

4154
02:55:17,269 --> 02:55:15,120
they're an important band and they have

4155
02:55:20,710 --> 02:55:17,279
been around for a long time

4156
02:55:21,670 --> 02:55:20,720
and his fan base is huge

4157
02:55:26,950 --> 02:55:21,680
and

4158
02:55:28,630 --> 02:55:26,960
coming from peter

4159
02:55:31,030 --> 02:55:28,640
i i

4160
02:55:33,190 --> 02:55:31,040
not only do i think it's great

4161
02:55:37,349 --> 02:55:33,200
but they get it

4162
02:55:39,349 --> 02:55:37,359
and it's another generation uh or two uh

4163
02:55:41,429 --> 02:55:39,359
um underneath me

4164
02:55:44,070 --> 02:55:41,439
that gets it

4165
02:55:45,429 --> 02:55:44,080
and and i just think it's amazing i

4166
02:55:48,870 --> 02:55:45,439
think it's amazing

4167
02:55:50,230 --> 02:55:48,880
um again go and watch go and watch the

4168
02:55:53,030 --> 02:55:50,240
videos

4169
02:55:55,750 --> 02:55:53,040
and and you just think to yourself

4170
02:55:58,630 --> 02:55:55,760
this is somebody that is that that is on

4171
02:56:01,190 --> 02:55:58,640
our team that is getting this done

4172
02:56:02,309 --> 02:56:01,200
and the other uh

4173
02:56:03,269 --> 02:56:02,319
important

4174
02:56:07,349 --> 02:56:03,279
uh

4175
02:56:10,070 --> 02:56:07,359
up not only in my opening

4176
02:56:11,990 --> 02:56:10,080
rant um

4177
02:56:14,870 --> 02:56:12,000
but we talked about it tonight which is

4178
02:56:17,190 --> 02:56:14,880
you just don't know today

4179
02:56:19,990 --> 02:56:17,200
you just don't know

4180
02:56:23,670 --> 02:56:20,000
who wants to have this conversation now

4181
02:56:25,550 --> 02:56:23,680
it is happening everywhere

4182
02:56:28,550 --> 02:56:25,560
it's happening everywhere the the

4183
02:56:31,269 --> 02:56:28,560
conversations are out in front

4184
02:56:32,950 --> 02:56:31,279
and this is a public thing now this is

4185
02:56:35,429 --> 02:56:32,960
no more

4186
02:56:37,190 --> 02:56:35,439
uh you know this taboo subject

4187
02:56:38,630 --> 02:56:37,200
that is not to be discussed you can't

4188
02:56:40,309 --> 02:56:38,640
bring this up you can't talk about it

4189
02:56:43,030 --> 02:56:40,319
you're going to get laughed at you no

4190
02:56:46,550 --> 02:56:43,040
it's not that kind of party anymore

4191
02:56:48,630 --> 02:56:46,560
and i really need to stress

4192
02:56:50,870 --> 02:56:48,640
not only with this conversation tonight

4193
02:56:52,630 --> 02:56:50,880
that that we had with peter who is an

4194
02:56:55,590 --> 02:56:52,640
important uh

4195
02:56:58,469 --> 02:56:55,600
uh musician out there

4196
02:57:00,790 --> 02:56:58,479
um uh and and very talented not only as

4197
02:57:03,110 --> 02:57:00,800
a musician but as a producer and

4198
02:57:05,510 --> 02:57:03,120
and and certainly his film work is it's

4199
02:57:08,550 --> 02:57:05,520
just incredible there there's that part

4200
02:57:09,990 --> 02:57:08,560
of it and then i need to really bring

4201
02:57:13,030 --> 02:57:10,000
this home

4202
02:57:16,550 --> 02:57:13,040
where i watched these two movies this

4203
02:57:17,830 --> 02:57:16,560
weekend two huge budgeted

4204
02:57:21,590 --> 02:57:17,840
uh

4205
02:57:25,510 --> 02:57:21,600
mainstream films and i'm talking about

4206
02:57:28,630 --> 02:57:25,520
uh moonfall by roland emmerich and the

4207
02:57:29,990 --> 02:57:28,640
eternals which is a marvel film

4208
02:57:32,469 --> 02:57:30,000
and

4209
02:57:36,389 --> 02:57:32,479
both of these films

4210
02:57:37,110 --> 02:57:36,399
i'm not going to uh no spoilers here

4211
02:57:38,230 --> 02:57:37,120
but

4212
02:57:49,830 --> 02:57:38,240
the

4213
02:57:52,070 --> 02:57:49,840
right eternals

4214
02:57:54,790 --> 02:57:52,080
starts off in mesopotamia in ancient

4215
02:57:56,150 --> 02:57:54,800
sumer right there

4216
02:57:59,030 --> 02:57:56,160
right there

4217
02:57:59,990 --> 02:57:59,040
just pump the brakes

4218
02:58:06,070 --> 02:58:00,000
and

4219
02:58:10,230 --> 02:58:06,080
with this

4220
02:58:12,550 --> 02:58:10,240
now this is this is a film for the world

4221
02:58:14,710 --> 02:58:12,560
i mean there's people out way outside of

4222
02:58:16,070 --> 02:58:14,720
our community are watching this

4223
02:58:19,349 --> 02:58:16,080
that's great

4224
02:58:22,950 --> 02:58:19,359
but it's who is writing this

4225
02:58:25,910 --> 02:58:22,960
and where does the story come from where

4226
02:58:29,590 --> 02:58:25,920
are they getting their information

4227
02:58:32,950 --> 02:58:29,600
our community isn't private anymore

4228
02:58:34,790 --> 02:58:32,960
this is no longer a sitchin thing

4229
02:58:37,110 --> 02:58:34,800
all right this is

4230
02:58:39,269 --> 02:58:37,120
you know inside of our community this is

4231
02:58:42,630 --> 02:58:39,279
now worldwide

4232
02:58:43,750 --> 02:58:42,640
now go and watch moonfall

4233
02:58:50,070 --> 02:58:43,760
the

4234
02:58:51,670 --> 02:58:50,080
this film

4235
02:58:53,429 --> 02:58:51,680
but uh

4236
02:58:56,309 --> 02:58:53,439
you listen

4237
02:58:58,710 --> 02:58:56,319
to what is being presented

4238
02:59:01,030 --> 02:58:58,720
and how it is being presented no

4239
02:59:02,950 --> 02:59:01,040
spoilers i'm not going to go there

4240
02:59:04,070 --> 02:59:02,960
just go and watch it

4241
02:59:07,030 --> 02:59:04,080
and

4242
02:59:08,309 --> 02:59:07,040
this conversation that we have inside of

4243
02:59:10,550 --> 02:59:08,319
our community

4244
02:59:12,830 --> 02:59:10,560
is now going down

4245
02:59:15,590 --> 02:59:12,840
worldwide

4246
02:59:17,110 --> 02:59:15,600
now back to my point

4247
02:59:19,670 --> 02:59:17,120
so

4248
02:59:21,670 --> 02:59:19,680
family sees film

4249
02:59:23,750 --> 02:59:21,680
all right they leave the theater

4250
02:59:25,670 --> 02:59:23,760
and suddenly

4251
02:59:27,429 --> 02:59:25,680
mom and dad are having a conversation

4252
02:59:28,389 --> 02:59:27,439
that you never expected

4253
02:59:29,590 --> 02:59:28,399
right

4254
02:59:31,349 --> 02:59:29,600
and

4255
02:59:33,750 --> 02:59:31,359
you're like what

4256
02:59:36,389 --> 02:59:33,760
wait a minute what what happened

4257
02:59:40,389 --> 02:59:36,399
where were you what's going on

4258
02:59:41,590 --> 02:59:40,399
that's what these films are doing

4259
02:59:44,950 --> 02:59:41,600
and

4260
02:59:47,670 --> 02:59:44,960
i i just have to question everything

4261
02:59:49,910 --> 02:59:47,680
you know it's it's it's because of the

4262
02:59:52,630 --> 02:59:49,920
concepts and the way that it is being

4263
02:59:54,870 --> 02:59:52,640
presented in these origin stories you

4264
02:59:57,830 --> 02:59:54,880
can even go back to prometheus

4265
02:59:58,790 --> 02:59:57,840
and and discuss that aspect of it uh too

4266
03:00:01,510 --> 02:59:58,800
as well

4267
03:00:03,349 --> 03:00:01,520
but but these two films are out now

4268
03:00:04,469 --> 03:00:03,359
go and watch them

4269
03:00:07,990 --> 03:00:04,479
and

4270
03:00:09,990 --> 03:00:08,000
think about the way that i am speaking

4271
03:00:11,269 --> 03:00:10,000
about it i think it's absolutely

4272
03:00:13,190 --> 03:00:11,279
incredible

4273
03:00:16,469 --> 03:00:13,200
so there you go

4274
03:00:18,389 --> 03:00:16,479
will you will you talk about ufos or

4275
03:00:21,429 --> 03:00:18,399
just music

4276
03:00:26,870 --> 03:00:23,190
what are you talking about that that

4277
03:00:30,469 --> 03:00:28,950
this show was always about ufos and

4278
03:00:32,309 --> 03:00:30,479
music

4279
03:00:33,269 --> 03:00:32,319
those are the two things that motivate

4280
03:00:38,309 --> 03:00:33,279
me

4281
03:00:40,230 --> 03:00:38,319
ufos in music i i've often wondered

4282
03:00:42,230 --> 03:00:40,240
you you know when you walk into an

4283
03:00:44,550 --> 03:00:42,240
office building you get on an elevator

4284
03:00:47,110 --> 03:00:44,560
you're shopping in a supermarket and

4285
03:00:49,429 --> 03:00:47,120
you've got muzak right you've got this

4286
03:00:51,429 --> 03:00:49,439
piped in music coming in

4287
03:00:53,190 --> 03:00:51,439
uh you know it's it's everywhere it

4288
03:00:54,790 --> 03:00:53,200
doesn't matter right you've we've got

4289
03:00:56,950 --> 03:00:54,800
music everywhere

4290
03:01:00,230 --> 03:00:56,960
so

4291
03:01:01,110 --> 03:01:00,240
what happens on an et ship

4292
03:01:04,550 --> 03:01:01,120
right

4293
03:01:07,349 --> 03:01:04,560
to 10 000 light years of space travel is

4294
03:01:08,309 --> 03:01:07,359
it just dead silent

4295
03:01:10,309 --> 03:01:08,319
right

4296
03:01:13,190 --> 03:01:10,319
or are they

4297
03:01:15,910 --> 03:01:13,200
are they piping in music

4298
03:01:17,510 --> 03:01:15,920
do they listen to music they have to

4299
03:01:19,030 --> 03:01:17,520
they have to they've gone through the

4300
03:01:21,830 --> 03:01:19,040
same

4301
03:01:23,190 --> 03:01:21,840
evolution that we have so they had to

4302
03:01:26,309 --> 03:01:23,200
have gone through

4303
03:01:28,070 --> 03:01:26,319
theater and comedy and and the arts and

4304
03:01:29,990 --> 03:01:28,080
and films

4305
03:01:32,150 --> 03:01:30,000
television right they had to go through

4306
03:01:33,510 --> 03:01:32,160
the same processes they must have had

4307
03:01:34,790 --> 03:01:33,520
bands

4308
03:01:37,349 --> 03:01:34,800
right

4309
03:01:38,710 --> 03:01:37,359
they have to they have to pipe in music

4310
03:01:42,870 --> 03:01:38,720
they have to

4311
03:01:44,870 --> 03:01:42,880
e.t is is is where the same dna

4312
03:01:47,429 --> 03:01:44,880
it's got to be the same it's got to be

4313
03:01:49,269 --> 03:01:47,439
the same so that's what motivates me

4314
03:01:51,110 --> 03:01:49,279
ufos

4315
03:01:52,950 --> 03:01:51,120
and music

4316
03:01:57,110 --> 03:01:52,960
great show tonight i want to thank peter

4317
03:01:59,030 --> 03:01:57,120
tacron coming in pulled an all-nighter

4318
03:02:01,110 --> 03:01:59,040
for the fader knots fade to black is

4319
03:02:04,150 --> 03:02:01,120
produced by hilton j palm dennis and

4320
03:02:05,830 --> 03:02:04,160
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4321
03:02:08,469 --> 03:02:05,840
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4322
03:02:10,309 --> 03:02:08,479
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4323
03:02:13,830 --> 03:02:10,319
music doug aldridge

4324
03:02:15,750 --> 03:02:13,840
intro spaceboy spaceboymusic.com

4325
03:02:16,950 --> 03:02:15,760
fade to black is produced by kjcr for

4326
03:02:19,750 --> 03:02:16,960
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4327
03:02:21,590 --> 03:02:19,760
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4328
03:02:23,990 --> 03:02:21,600
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4329
03:02:25,750 --> 03:02:24,000
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4330
03:02:27,590 --> 03:02:25,760
downloaded copied or used anywhere in

4331
03:02:29,030 --> 03:02:27,600
the known universe without written

4332
03:02:30,550 --> 03:02:29,040
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4333
03:02:32,150 --> 03:02:30,560
game changer network

4334
03:02:33,429 --> 03:02:32,160
i'm your host jimmy church tomorrow

4335
03:02:36,550 --> 03:02:33,439
night

4336
03:02:39,590 --> 03:02:36,560
flat earth dave

4337
03:02:40,950 --> 03:02:39,600
is flat earth still a thing well we're

4338
03:02:42,469 --> 03:02:40,960
going to find out tomorrow night with

4339
03:02:46,070 --> 03:02:42,479
flat earth dave

4340
03:02:50,170 --> 03:02:46,080
until then i want everybody to be safe

4341
03:03:00,810 --> 03:02:50,180
it's time to fade to black

4342
03:03:00,820 --> 03:03:15,110
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